MAGNETIC GATE --- Possibly the best yet??

[gyulasun]

Check out the below video I posted on U tube.

It has all information you might need.  Free to the world to use.   Note the Note.

Tom Ferko

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5VnLjW-1iQ&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eyoutube%2Ecom%2Fmy%5Fvideos%5Fedit2&feature=player_embedded

Hi Tom,

With really great respect to your hands-on activity on the forums,  I feel making a small note is needed here:  you may wish mentioning Graham (Rusty_Springs) as the originator of this setup, just like he introduced the tri gate concept, among some other magnetic setups.

Graham calls his present setup U bolt gate and uploaded a drawing on it at Clanzer's forum in April 12, 2009:
http://www.overunity.org.uk/showthread.php?t=290 

I know you make use of his setup from the U shape side while Graham showed the rotor (i.e. the roller) rolls in front of the straight magnet side. The effect is the same I think.

So I do think Graham deserves you mention his name at least, here on this forum too, as the prompt originator of this idea.

Thanks,

Gyula

[Earl]

Gyula,

does Graham's device use electromagnetism generated by current flowing in a closed loop?

I was unable to even look at the link without being registered.  I can understand this in order to be able to post, but being registered just to be able to look at the forum is unacceptable.

Earl

[gyulasun]

Hi Earl,

Sorry for the link need for registering, I cannot help on that.

I  think the best we can do is to hear Graham's opinion on his setup, he may post his drawing here as well.

Thanks for understanding,

regards,  Gyula

[Earl]

I can access by going to the forum root and then taking the menu tri-gate.

It will take a week or two to determine whether any successful gate is using only magnetism or magnetism *AND* electromagnetism combined.  Nickel-plated magnets and steel balls and steel wire can cause an electrically conducting loop.  Magnets moving in relation to this loop can induce current flow, which in turn causes electromagnetism.

Best to stay cool and calm until we know whether a linear magnetic gate can be closed into a circle and still function.

** IF ** this can be done, then experiments should be done.  I would say an all-magnet motor has no chance of functioning.  Whether this is still the case for a combined magnet and self-energized electromagnet device should be known shortly.
If a magnet + EM motor should be shown to function and be reproducible, the the **BIG** question is how and why?

I have held in my hands a magnet + EM motor that turned and turned and turned with no apparent power source.  This particular toy had one magnet, one stator coil, one rotor coil, and a commutator.  The rotor was slightly unbalanced, so gravity was also involved.  In one rotational direction, it would quickly stop, but in the other sense it did not stop.  The inventor did not wish to do anything with it, nor did he want his name to be connected to it.  I understand how each simple part works, but it is a mystery how the complete motor functions.  Even simple things can be complex.

Earl

[magnetman12003]

Hi Tom,

With really great respect to your hands-on activity on the forums,  I feel making a small note is needed here:  you may wish mentioning Graham (Rusty_Springs) as the originator of this setup, just like he introduced the tri gate concept, among some other magnetic setups.

Graham calls his present setup U bolt gate and uploaded a drawing on it at Clanzer's forum in April 12, 2009:
http://www.overunity.org.uk/showthread.php?t=290 

I know you make use of his setup from the U shape side while Graham showed the rotor (i.e. the roller) rolls in front of the straight magnet side. The effect is the same I think.

So I do think Graham deserves you mention his name at least, here on this forum too, as the prompt originator of this idea.

Thanks,

Gyula

Yes  I saw Grahams setup and saw the way he had his runner positioned. Try it -- maybe it will work for you as well as my idea.        I respect Grahams work.

I have seen no videos of how he used his U bolt device however in a motor form.   Have you?

I made a large bent iron rod and went on from there positioning the runner magnet as you see it.

A better mousetrap if you wish to call it that.

Remember all overunity ideas can be improved on by others.  Even the device Idea I submitted.

Tom Ferko