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Overunity Machines Forum



HOPE Testing

Started by Elvis Oswald, February 15, 2006, 11:16:45 PM

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Elvis Oswald

First of all - I must qualify this post by saying that I am not a skeptic... or a debunker... :) 

However... I must shed some light on the HOPE transformer that may be the death of that dream.  I would consider this a positive - because an understanding of the results is what we are seeking?  right?  ;)

Before anyone jumps to a conclusion that HOPE transforms .5v into 30v - or whatever it seems to be doing - I would suggest the following hypothesis be tested.

The power input into the HOPE comes via an audio signal.  This is not 'sound' - this is an alternating current.  The higher the cycle... the more energy it is able to output.  But isn't it true that a higher frequency is sending more POWER down the wire?
IF you pulse 1v at a cycle of X per second - then you are using (X)v to do it.  If you double the frequency, then you use (2X)v to do it.

It's been implied that this is 'using sound' to generate power.  Some have made note that this is just a current... but the discussion was dropped on the assumption that the input was '.5v at max.'
But actually the input is not .5 volts.  The power input would be much larger.

The way to test this would be to put a meter on the end of the wire coming out of the sound card.  I bet the output at frequency X would be just what you would expect to light a tube up with any normal transformer.
This would also explain why you can't power a real load.  The sound card will only output a certain amount of power. 

Some of you may have already figured this out.  I just thought I'd post it here for all to see, and for others to take me to test on it.

IcyBlue

... once again the same little beast that kills all 'overunity' devices - wrong power calculation of AC currents ;)
For the voltages, the only way is to use a scope to find out the real values. Same goes for the current. You then as well have to figure out the phaseshift between I and U. In the end it comes down below one. One of the major flaws wich seem to be quite popular with these devices is to use neon tubes as sort of power indicator. But the brightness of these tubes is a function of an ion discarge, which in turn is a function of the ionisation of the gas inside the tube. Ionisation in turn is dependent on the collision speed of the electrons/atom, i.e. the potential and the potential deviaton by time are important. This all makes it voltage and frequency dependent.

The only way to prove OU is to use a ohmic resistance, i.e. a incandalescent lamp or heating element, put it into a calorimeter and meassure the produced heat energy.
*** Due to recent cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off. ***

Elvis Oswald

Yep.  Tubes can be lit by standing too close to a broadcast antenna... maybe by running a comb through your hair... hahaha

You are probably right about using a regular bulb, or heating element.  I don't doubt so called "cold electricity" - only because Tesla talked about it - but show me that it can run a generator to produce "hot electricity" and we'll talk.

I still believe the secret is in the aether.  And that's not overunity any more than daming a river.  :)

IcyBlue

PS: for the the MEG type devices in all its flavors:

It would be interesting to see how the output changes, when the magnet is a) removed and b) replaced by a simple magnetic short. I wonder if the output might be still the same  ???
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Elvis Oswald

Jim,

If you will read my original post... you will see that I did not attack you personally.... AND I did not say that your technology didn't work.
You have over-reacted.  Not that I can blame you... I've seen you attacked persoanlly in another thread... and I'm sure that conditioned your response to me.

Your invention is the one device on this forum that I have thought to have potential.  That's the reason I posted my suggestion for testing it to be sure that it was the real deal.  As a matter of fact... It was the result of my preparations to build my own replica that I stumbled upon my questions about the input, and the actual wattage.  :)
You should understand that a person cannot build every device that comes along on this forum.  It seemed appropriate to suggest a simple experiment to you before building my own.

As for you personally... I have nothing but respect for you.  You have tinkered, and you have shared.  You don't claim to have all the answers.  You openly place your design and your data on this forum - and present it "as is."
I certainly appreciate your efforts and I don't doubt your intentions.  I'd appreciate the same respect from you, sir.  :)

What is the total output from the sound card at the different frequencies of tome you are using?  I understand that the voltage is .5v - but how much current?  What's the total watts output at a given frequency?

What is the output then, using the same frequencies, after the current is run through the HOPE??