Closing the loop on Milkovic's two-stage mechanical oscillator?

[Cloxxki]

Nice image ruggero! Just migth work, and just might not.
A pendulum being free swinging though, at least the thing won't grind itself to pieces when engaged.

My last name is actually a translation of "clock". I like that thing, but wonder if it has any other sytem keeping it running. The falling balls seems to be for the timing, not for winding?

[utilitarian]

All,
If indeed output is greater than input as so nicely demonstrated with the squeeze-lamps by its inventor on videos.

How does the squeeze lamp demo prove anything?  Yes, the flashlight in hand lights up, and all the other bulbs light up.  So what?  The human hand is putting in way more energy than what is output.  Suppose the flashlight in the hand was broken and did not light up?  The experiment would not be any different.

[AnandAadhar]

sorry but it is NOT demonstrated

and

nobody can loop this Milkovic's two-stage !!

Well, nobody... Studying the pendulum to drive a flywheel, I've also studied the two-phase pendulum of Milkovic, and looped the two phase pendulum succesfully with a flywheel and a feedback magnet pulsing back the pendulum, but it gave no overunity in my set-up. It works indeed as he demonstrates, the pendulum being pushed can drive a wheel or a pump. But claiming overunity here is a bridge too far to my opinion. Milkovic inertial oscillator is inspiring though. The principle works best if you create a disc with a weight positioned on one side and then vibrate the axis in a linear fashion. That easily gives a turning rotor. Thus it is suited for converting a linear movement into a cyclic one. Inertial oscillation is a principle used by Finsrud also in His perpetuum mobile. His ball is the weight oscillating the central pendulum in his machine. So there is a connection with PM and OU. But gravity (like magnetism) alone is conservative and will not deliver energy without engaging magnetism actively with this gavitational oscillator e.g..   That is my conclusion as yet.


My Milkovic replication Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJsXLiLNJHA
My Finsrud analysis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9GucVwc36Q

[tagor]

Well, nobody... Studying the pendulum to drive a flywheel, I've also studied the two-phase pendulum of Milkovic, and looped the two phase pendulum succesfully with a flywheel and a feedback magnet pulsing back the pendulum, but it gave no overunity in my set-up. It works indeed as he demonstrates, the pendulum being pushed can drive a wheel or a pump. But claiming overunity here is a bridge too far to my opinion. Milkovic inertial oscillator is inspiring though. The principle works best if you create a disc with a weight positioned on one side and then vibrate the axis in a linear fashion. That easily gives a turning rotor. Thus it is suited for converting a linear movement into a cyclic one. Inertial oscillation is a principle used by Finsrud also in His perpetuum mobile. His ball is the weight oscillating the central pendulum in his machine. So there is a connection with PM and OU. But gravity (like magnetism) alone is conservative and will not deliver energy without engaging magnetism actively with this gavitational oscillator e.g..   That is my conclusion as yet.


My Milkovic replication Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJsXLiLNJHA
My Finsrud analysis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9GucVwc36Q

very good work !!

[Hoxan]

Nice work, but, in order to get large kinetic energy on side where work is being done you need to have pendulum swinging at least 60° to its vertical axis. Pendulum potential force (energy) has to be greater or equal to centrifugal force (energy, angular momentum), ideal case is at 90° because there is no force on x nor y axis. This is the best case for bearings as well as they work in special case here > static friction is reduced to minimum.

I am working with friend on replicating device and have conducted a lot of research and simulations in Working Model / Solidworks. At this point i think the best way to drive pendulum is using magbot pendulum, 3 coils for 75° pendulum angle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNn4Ebq7IYU

and transform linear motion to rotatial motian with this device:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a49d5cJOGQ0
and connecting it to a generator that is being looped to magbot pendulum

on pic, right graph shows kinetic energy of square and potential energy of pendulum ratio when "small" angle is used (54°)