Closing the loop on Milkovic's two-stage mechanical oscillator?

[Xaverius]

Closing the loop on this device should be simple in principle.  You could use a solenoid plunger or pulse motor rotation.  Have you checked the results of Raymond Heade's work in the Dallas Texas area?  He was supposed to have built a large outdoor device with an attachment to close the loop in October of 2009.  I haven't kept up with it lately, you might write Raymond, he's easy to talk to and his input is in these forums.

[AnandAadhar]

You should move the discussion on Milkovic's oscillator to the main topic, so that others can follow every new progress in one place
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1763.1380

@AnandAadhar

you should read these two papers published by Milkovic team on attempts to mechanically close the loop

Mechanical Feedback Loop Problems and Possible Solutions for the Two-Stage Oscillator of Veljko Milkovic
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Jovan_Marjanovic_Mechanical_Feedback_Loop.pdf

Keys of Understanding Gravity Machines of Veljko Milkovic
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Jovan_Marjanovic_Key_of_Gravity_Machines.pdf

I've also built a looped oscillator with a disc out of balance. No overunity found. But it is a nice preparation for Finsrud's way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYAKzW0H2yY

see the discussion there:http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1763.1380

[mr_bojangles]

easiest way without modifying the general function is..........build two of the same size and weights.....

works with electrical generators too, use one as the "motor" and one as the "generator"

both can be used in place of the other...so logically ones output should be able to match the input of the second


easiest test for any PMM

[Aemilius]

Milkovic's arrangement will not "close the loop".... http://thecolemechanism.blogspot.com/

[johnny874]

All,
If indeed output is greater than input as so nicely demonstrated with the squeeze-lamps by its inventor on video's (don't have them handy now), how hard would it be to gather some electricity from the output, and use it to, pinball machine style, give the pendulum a small push, perhaps even twice a full swing?
It seems that all that's needed is then one or a few initial pushes, and the thing could sustain itself, as well as doing some useful work on top of that?
The pinball setup would ensure good impuls, at exactly the right time. One could even devise a secundary pendulum, to let the actuator be amplitude-independent. But carefully monitoring work done should realtively easily be able to keep the pendulum swinging with it's uptimum range.
I can imagine closing the loop mechanically, but that seems to stumble on more timing issues. If such a loop has been closed before, please point me to coverage of that?

Thanks,

J

reply #116 is an idea I have sent to Jovan Milkovic. Thought I'd let you know.
Re: My Invention« Reply #116 on: September 08, 2012, 10:13:47 AM