Sjack Abeling: Working Principle

[Cloxxki]

If he has a working wheel, that non working wheel isn't prior art.

Let's see the working one, then work out what the kick is, and then see what prior art there may be.

I'm slightly worried by the base of that one though - It needs to be closer to the front of the machine.

The patent procedure requires a construction to be new and makeble. Hovering beams or weightless parts for instance, would run into objections.
Whether it works or not, for the patent office is less relevant. The applicant pays very good money, and is only making problems for itself to spend in on something unworthy of intellectual protection.

If Abeling's wheel works, and his application is granted on the basis of being a new construction, we would have the right to replicate the maching in the old picture and try to get it to work as well. Abeling would have no ground to object to us, unless he would be willing to withdraw his patent. In any case, the construction shown on the old drawing can now be freely used, at least when it's at least 20 years old and not otherwize claimed by its original inventor or fiction author/artist.

So, when Abeling's machine proves to work, I'm looking into this prior art as a way to make my own, something open source which in fact it already is. Every idea ever openly presented or too long ago claimed, is now open source. Our job is to put all the failures to good use. Today we have ceramic bearing, magnetical levitation, and large vacuum chambers. We have low friction as a weapon against ancient inventors.

[Cloxxki]

Cloxxki



But as stgpcm  pointed out
>>Let's see the working one, then work out what the kick is, and then see what prior art there may be.<<

The biggest fear I have is that it is a deal where other people get involve and they try to see what has been done and what they can do, and if they get a runner then the patent holder even though incomplete can take it and claim it. Before I would even try to build the Sjack Abeling device. I would have to have proof that it truly is already running. This we still don't have, just speculations and a paper for patent. If patented and a runner. Why is there no proof of its existence?

> If it is so and the book is found then the patent would have been a big waste of
> money. But if it has enough differences then the patent can still be valid. 
So far I'm with you (I'm not a native English speaker as you will have noticed).
Abeling may get his patent, but not the sole right to a gravity wheel. The open source community has a prior art in hand to use as a guide when trying to make Abeling's invention obsolete, or at least find a non-patent protected alternative.
Who knows, Abeling may have read the same book, done some calculations we can only dream about, and then figured out a specific patentable setup. In that case, he's the smartest man alive. If both ideas work when properly executed, he's the second smartest man ever, likely the only alive judging from the image art style.

For the rest, the language barrier is preventing me from understanding your point. As long as we stick to solutions from prior art, and stay away from those features in Abeling's applications we consider "not new", we are safe, and Abeling has little to complain about. He's been an inspirator for sure, but not one with any rights.
If I were to come up with a working alternative, I'd approach the man to seek his input. He'll have to know I will get there anyway, but his input may be benificial for the world. His investors have less of a security, but still a head start in having Abeling's calculations making their machinery run the best.
Before energy prices take a tumble, first we'll see increased investments and employment from these devices. People will be using such free energy long before we're able to buy it from power companies.
If we're to belief all accounts, many are already powering their houses from such generators, just keeping it low key.

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[Cloxxki]

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So complicated that no-one will ever try to understand, let alone copy it? A small generator (or engine?) for such a monster machine.

[AquariuZ]

I do not think that previous is the same as the patent, check Fig. 8. I still feel the missing element are springs that connect pairs of weights and create the shot put effect in the upper left corner.

I voted: need more evidence