Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

[i_ron]

and people claiming it is a hoax.

Regards, Larry

Larry, I did a very careful experiment on the E core style coil/core in post 134. What is it that you don't understand? Can I redo and show that in more detail for you?

This was my 'hoax' statement, yet you seem to have included all Thane's models in your view. Thane made an error in the description of how a sin e wave is generated from single pole and made out that I was a liar. Yet when I showed links and actual evidence he neither corrected his mistake
nor did you accept my evidence as correct.

And still this little sniping going on towards me? Do the experiment on how a single pole generates a sine wave and do the experiment as I have suggested on the E core and you will see who is presenting the correct evidence.

Ron

[i_ron]

Larry, I did a very careful experiment on the E core style coil/core in post 134.

Ron

Larry and all,

To illustrate the principle of coil wiring in a NSN device I have lifted an illustration from 'Simple Adam's Motor Concepts', Hoptoads site, Thanks hoppy. 

But note that every other coil must be flipped over to maintain that the output will be additive? In other words if you wired them all the same hand ,each one would fight the other and the output would be zero (if they were of equal outputs)

Now what do we see in Thane's E core style coil?  The output is of the same hand over three cores. Therefore the output can only be the output of two coils minus one coil. BUT, if we were to short out the center leg, then the output could rise to that of two coils.

Ron

[i_ron]

These are key points, but the fact is the instructions are not clearly stated in one location. There are pieces in various post along with tons of BS post in between. For anybody to go thru and not get lost in the manure and various stages and then create a working replication is amazing. The videos have good performance information but not detailed replication information. 
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Regards, Larry

These are good points Larry, we should try to work towards this goal.

I realize that not everyone has the same facilities to build... and this is the big stumbling block. But if one wants to experience the joy of actually building projects then the first step is to quietly gather some stuff together. A good multimeter, with the understanding that it is only accurate at 50/60 cycles, a few hand tools and a dedicated space to work.

If you notice I show DSO (digital storage oscilloscope) graphs in my posts,
sort of a little hint that one doesn't need to spend thousands of bucks on a 'good' scope when for a few hundred one can  hook one of these up to an old com puter and be able to measure voltages accurately at the Hz encountered in these experiments. I just have the 101 but the new one includes multi functions...It sure beats working in the dark.

http://www.syscompdesign.com/index.html

Its a fun hobby and probably cheaper than golf!

Ron

[i_ron]

Hello @ All,

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By the way there are amazing results of the bifilar setup that not sigle wire wound coils have.
When i parallel connected the two coils i had a 55 VAC at 1100 rmp and some 0,3 A oscillating current.
Neither this way i achieved any accelaration, but...
With great astonishement i found out the fact that when you pose a load to coil, it can handle it way better than a single wound wire coil of same size or output in terms of Lenz's law decellaration.

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Regards,
Baroutologos

Great to see your results baroutologos, Yes, there are interesting things happening with bifilar coils. One of my best producers is bifilar.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ron

[CRANKYpants]

I am in charge here.

Ron

OK MR. I_AM_IN_CHARGE_HERE,

HERE IS WHAT PEOPLE SHOULD DO TO REPLICATE THE THANE HEINS PEREPITEIA PROPERLY.

1) DON'T LISTEN TO I_RON.

2) DON'T LISTEN TO HOPTOAD.

3) WIND A HIGH VOLTAGE COIL ON CHEAP STEEL IRON BARS FROM HOME DEPOT LIKE LARRYC.

4) USE AN 18 POLE ROTOR AND WIND A SERIES BI-FILAR COIL.

5) PUT ENOUGH TURNS ON UNTIL ACCELERATION STARTS WHEN COIL SHORTED. IF NO
ACCELERATION ADD MORE TURNS UNTIL IT DOES OR RAISE ROTOR SPEED.

6) 30 GUAGE WIRE IS BEST TO START WITH - 100 OHMS WOUND TIGHTLY SHOULD WORK.

7) THEN ONCE YOU HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT IT TAKES TO GET ACCELERATION WITH CHEAP CORES - UPGRADE TO GOOD TRANSFORMER LAMINATIONS.

REPEAT STEPS 1 - 6

9) NOW CHANGE THE GAUGE OF WIRE TO 22 GAUGE AND REPEAT STEPS 1 - 6.

10) NOW ADD AN EXTERNAL LOAD TO YOUR COIL - START WITH 1 OHM, 10 OHM AND UP UNTIL ACCELERATION DISAPPEARS.

11) NOW YOU KNOW THE LOAD OPERATING RANGE OF SAID COIL.

12) NOW GET A STEP DOWN TRANSFORMER AND STEP DOWN THE HV OUTPUT FROM YOUR ACCELERATING HV COIL.

13) MAKE SURE THE TRANSFORMER DOES NOT REMOVE THE ACCELERATIVE EFFECTS

14) NOW ADD A LOAD - A LIGHT BULB IS NICE BUT YOU NEED A LOW RESISTANCE LIGHT BULB IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN ACCELERATION.

15) THE LIGHT BULBS FROM THE RYOBI BENCH GRINDER WORK WELL BECAUSE THEIR RESISTANCE IS ONLY 2 OHMS.

16) IF YOU GET THIS FAR YOU WILL HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT IT TAKES TO CREATE AND MAINTAIN ACCELERATION UNDER DIFFERENT CONDITIONS - IF YOU FAIL ANYWHERE ALONG THE WAY JUST SAY IT'S ALL A HOAX.

17) NOW YOU CAN TRY AN E CORE. 

18) TO MAKE AN E CORE WORK WELL YOU NEED TO MAKE ONE BY HAND FIRST ALSO IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO USE CHEAP STEEL EARLY ON AS WELL.

19) MAKE THE INNER E FINGER FIRST AND GET IT WORKING.

20) THEN MAKE THE OUTER E FINGERS - WIND HV WIRE ON THE OUTER E FINGERS.

21) MAKE SURE THE INNER E FINGER LAMINATIONS ARE TURNED 90 DEGREES TO THE OUTER E FINGER LAMINATIONS 

22) YOU CAN ALSO MAKE A MODIFIED E COIL WITH AN INNER HV COIL AND THEN AN IRON PIPE AROUND THE INNER HV COIL WITH HV WINDINGS ON TOP OF THAT - LEAVE THE BACKING PLATE OFF FOR NOW.

23) THE ROLE OF THE CONCENTRIC E COIL IS FOR THE OUTER CORE TO COLLECT THE INNER COIL'S DISCHARGING FLUX AND VISE VERSA.

24) THE INNER HV CORE AND THE OUTER HV CORE MUST LINE UP CORRECTLY WITH THE MAGNETS ON THE ROTOR OR IT WON'T WORK. IT TOOK ME 5 SOLID WEEKS TO GET IT RIGHT - IF HOWEVER IT DOES NOT WORK FOR YOU THE FIRST TIME THEN JUST SAY IT IS A HOAX.

25) NOW ONCE YOU GET THIS FAR MAKE A BI-TOROID HV COIL WITH DUAL ROTORS - SIMILAR TO THE ONE IN MY EARLIER BASEMENT VIDEOS. THERE IS NO AIR GAP BETWEEN THE COILS AND THE FLUX FROM ONE COIL GOES RIGHT INTO THE OTHER - AND YOU GET ACCELERATION.

26) ANY PROBLEMS ALONG THE WAY - TALK TO THE MAN IN "CHARGE" OR SEND ME AN EMAIL @ thane_heins@yahoo.ca .

T