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Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

Started by hartiberlin, May 28, 2009, 05:54:52 PM

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minde4000

People have to build something more descent with proper E coil(s) instead of rotor with couple of magnets and 1000+ rpm. Test it and only then make conclusions about Thanes work. I am glad he is back and helping us along and didnt bail out like few others did. Ron has nice rotor but appearently no E coil yet. I am still building mine still looking for proper size E laminates, waiting on coil winding machine. GL

"I FOLLOW THE DATA THEORY BE DAMNED" - Sr. Lockheed M. scientist Boyd Bushman

Regards Minde


CRANKYpants

Quote from: LarryC on June 13, 2009, 07:42:30 PM

So, just for us individuals who have electronic equipment challenges, could you please show an OS shot with TDC marks or any other supporting data?

Regards, Larry

HERE ARE A COUPLE OF E CORE SCOPE SHOTS -

THE 1ST ONE IS THE HC COIL ON LOAD WITHOUT THE HV COIL ENGAGED AND
THE 2ND ONE IS WITH THE HV COIL ENGAGED.

CHEERS
T

CRANKYpants

Quote from: minde4000 on June 13, 2009, 08:16:10 PM
"I FOLLOW THE DATA THEORY BE DAMNED" - Sr. Lockheed M. scientist Boyd Bushman
Regards Minde

PERFORMANCE COMPARISON DATA SUMMARY YOUTUBE VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3JVjbXOssQ&feature=channel_page

Conventional generator on load alone delivers an output 6.35 Watts with a corresponding prime mover power input increase of 4% or 11 Watts.

Regenerative acceleration generator and conventional generator on load deliver a combined output of 43.8 Watts with a prime mover input reduction of 19 Watts.

589% output power increase with a 6.5% input power decrease.

Regenerative acceleration generator alone delivers a 498% output power increase over the conventional generator alone with a 11.6% decrease in prime mover input.

T

baroutologos

Hello @ All,

Its very nice to see Mr T. posting info still here! Thanks man.
At all... a kind request.
Perhaps we should avoid excessive theorizing and focus and experimental facts we have. If you cant experiment yourself, theorizing cant make your statements more valid than others.

My last experiment
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We talked about why at magnet TDC exists a voltage that initiates a delayed current. On of the theories was that there is a parasitic capacitatance of the coil. I had to test that.

I wound a bifillar ala Tesla style coil (photos pending) with two wires (not twisted) at 38 ohms each. This way the paracitic capacitance is some thousands time more than sigle wire wound coil.

Running the coil
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By series connecting the two parallel coils in the 1100 rpm region i did not managed to achieve any accelaration. (decellaration little though)

This series connected coils output 110 Vac and 0,15 A was the shorted oscillating current.
So we can safely conclude from this simple experiment that noT the Paracitic capacitance do the job.

Interesting effects of biffilar coil in PARALLEL mode
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By the way there are amazing results of the bifilar setup that not sigle wire wound coils have.
When i parallel connected the two coils i had a 55 VAC at 1100 rmp and some 0,3 A oscillating current.
Neither this way i achieved any accelaration, but...
With great astonishement i found out the fact that when you pose a load to coil, it can handle it way better than a single wound wire coil of same size or output in terms of Lenz's law decellaration.

Shorting it
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Even though in the decellaration mode, when i shorted it it decellarates the rotor just a bit (from 1100 to 1000 rmp)
If you just short only the one parallel coil, great decellaration kicks in and brings the rotor to full stop.

I remember from my previous experiments that if i shorted a coil not in the accelaration mode, then it initially would slow down a bit, but as the rotor it would slow down, the decellaration becomes faster and faster till to dead stop.

Bifillar coil from my initial experiments has way better way of handling lenz law. (even though does not accelarates)

Loading it
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I reapetedly have said that if you apply a load to a accellarating or just barely decellarating coil, then decellaration kicks in in a hard mode. The coils manifest their full accelaration effects when shorted and the oscillating current goes unimpeded or just near to it.

A serious resistive load that will half the shorted oscillating current (according my experiments) results in a brutal decellaration.
Till now all my loads were 12v lead acid batteries powered by the coils via a FWBR.

Even the coils that manifested accelaration, when employed in this configuration they would decellarete to a dead stop.
for example my first 75 ohms HV accelarating coil outputed 110vac and a current (shorted) 130 mA. When used the FWBR and a single battery to charge it was barely if at all accelarating. Thus giving 0,110 (drop) x 12,5 volts = some 1,3 watts energy stores losses include. If i arranged 2 x 12volt  batteries in series then decellaration kicked in and rotor full stop.

But, in bifillar coil, the 12 volt battery was charged 0,250 A or some 2,5 watts (drop from 0,3 shorted) and rotor did not go below 1000 rpm, no matter what.

Bottom line, bifilar or litzed wire coils if employed as HC coils are way better. As for the HV coils employed in bifilar mode i can only speculate...


Regards,
Baroutologos

hoptoad

Quote from: baroutologos on June 14, 2009, 03:57:25 AM

Bottom line, bifilar or litzed wire coils if employed as HC coils are way better. As for the HV coils employed in bifilar mode i can only speculate...

Regards,
Baroutologos
Nice fresh observation. Thanks for sharing!  KneeDeep

Cheers 

P.S.  I found bi-filar coils best for the drive coils of adams motors. The same acceleration is oberved (for different reasons), when only one coil is used for the drive, and the other is connected back to source via a diode at one end with a common connection to negative at the other end. (I used npn switching).
I never actually tested bi filars as passive pickup coils.

Thanks again for the observation.