overbalanced chain drive

[MarkE]

I love it when people say no need to make this personal when that is all they have contributed.

My statement: 

Rounds 1 through 10 have gone against Murilo because despite his efforts he has been unable to produce either a module that holds up to ordinary scrutiny, or a device that works as he asserts.

Recounts fact.  It is not personal.

Your assuming that this group knows all there is to know.

Again, my statement recounted Murilo's history that does not support his extraordinary claim.  The burden of proving an extraordinary claim falls upon the claimant.

Sure we can use theory, computer models and opinions but these do not turn Generator shafts.

Neither has any overbalanced device that Murilo or anyone else has ever built.  Were someone to successfully build such a thing, then matters would be different.  But no one has, and that is where matters stand.

Reality can be the only determinate of truth.

And so far reality has mercilessly rejected such ideas.

If it costs Murilo his life savings to understand a fact comprehensively is that such a bad thing?

Like anyone, he is free to hold what ideas he likes and pursue them as he likes.  When such ideas are discussed he should not be surprised or offended that given he has no supporting evidence, that his arguments are unconvincing.

Others pay that for a University degree.

Others buy cars, or homes, or vacations.  So what?

Im currently building an Oil Hydrogenation Plant to remove PCB's.
Around me are 4 engineers who in theory designed it.
I build it and reality shows this model doesnt work.
Rather than get their hands dirty and understand their failings they go back to their computers and opinions.

If they are capable engineers they will determine the root cause as to why their expectations were not realized.  What does this have to do with Murilo?

The experts who have been there and done that dont carry on like children, as they know there is no possible way that this method will result in success.

If you consulted with and believed such expert opinion before you started, then why did you proceed despite such opinions?

The experts understand the direction of the learner and run them through their problems step by step until there is no more confusion.

Mr. Simanek and TinselKoala both seem to have tried to educate Murilo.

If you are unwilling to be the expert then step aside while the learners thrash out their problems.

I think that the facts speak for themselves.  You seem very unhappy with the report even though you do not dispute the facts.

[Tradie]

I love how you break down each sentance without considering the context of the whole.

Im yet to see an expert nor talk to one.
The most technical response I have received is "Truly".

I cant even see how a technical response can come from a suggestion that wasnt even detailed to the point where it could have a technical response without further clarification.
Ripping shreds of someone with honest input definitely seems that way to go.

Murilo's history is vast with all of his 18posts.
I dont know if you are dragging shit from elsewhere and I dont care.
Im taking this thread on face value and in good faith, can you claim the same?

Rounds one through 10 obviously sounds very technical and I could probably build the Mars Rover from it but it is opinion none the less.
Considering I dont know who Simanek is and koala has only 4 posts i'm assuming the rounds are quite short.

If the machines on this forum worked as hypothesised it would no longer be a forum, nor would the requirement for such a forum exist as we would be flying round the place with free energy.

It is wonderful that such forums exists so people can share thoughts and ideas to stimulate creativity within themselves.
Im sure if Murilo had working machines for sale that contractual liabilities may come to the fore for that claim, but lets just assume we are not contractual litigants and treat this idea on its merits.

So far all you have done is waste time on everything bar facts.
And since I havent seen any photos or evidence of your build im going to assume your not the expert.
Before you idiot "hero's" go round bitchslapping everyone for having a thought, take a deep breath and count to 10.

[MarkE]

I love how you break down each sentance without considering the context of the whole.

I have pointed out the discrepancies in fact between what you have said and what is true.

Im yet to see an expert nor talk to one.

Non-sequitor.

The most technical response I have received is "Truly".

More non-sequitor.

I cant even see how a technical response can come from a suggestion that wasnt even detailed to the point where it could have a technical response without further clarification.
Ripping shreds of someone with honest input definitely seems that way to go.

I have challenged only Murilo's claims.  It's not personal.  He simply doesn't offer evidence to support his extraordinary claims.

Murilo's history is vast with all of his 18posts.
I dont know if you are dragging shit from elsewhere and I dont care.
Im taking this thread on face value and in good faith, can you claim the same?

My responses have been factual and not personal.  A good way to demonstrate good faith is to stick to the facts.

Rounds one through 10 obviously sounds very technical and I could probably build the Mars Rover from it but it is opinion none the less.

Does it?

Considering I dont know who Simanek is and koala has only 4 posts i'm assuming the rounds are quite short.

TinselKoala provided handy links.  You could show some good faith by following them.

If the machines on this forum worked as hypothesised it would no longer be a forum, nor would the requirement for such a forum exist as we would be flying round the place with free energy.

And what does that tell you?

It is wonderful that such forums exists so people can share thoughts and ideas to stimulate creativity within themselves.

It is indeed nice of Stefan to host this forum.

Im sure if Murilo had working machines for sale that contractual liabilities may come to the fore for that claim, but lets just assume we are not contractual litigants and treat this idea on its merits.

That's more non sequitor.  Murilo asserts extraordinary claims.  He fails to support those claims with evidence.  Rational people point out the deficiency while rejecting his claims.  You object that is somehow unreasonable.

So far all you have done is waste time on everything bar facts.

You are entitled to your opinion.

And since I havent seen any photos or evidence of your build im going to assume your not the expert.

I find such logic absurd.

Before you idiot "hero's" go round bitchslapping everyone for having a thought, take a deep breath and count to 10.

How about we just stick to the facts and don't make things personal?

[Tradie]

Im getting paid to reply to these posts and even then i'm growing tired of the same troll rubbish.
Everything you've spewed out is purgamentum and I wont be entertaining it any longer.

[MarkE]

Im getting paid to reply to these posts and even then i'm growing tired of the same troll rubbish.
Everything you've spewed out is purgamentum and I wont be entertaining it any longer.

If you think that pointing out facts is trolling, you are free to hold and express that opinion.