What Does This Tell You ?

[Cap-Z-ro]

Slavery...or as its sometimes called, 'wage slavery', is maintained through income and property tax.

Otherwise there would simply be a 'consumption tax' only...because everybody consumes.

We own nothing...we pay tax on everything.

We are no farther ahead at the end of the week than the slave of the american south...the great majority of what ever you earn is returned to the master through taxes.

This makes it extremely difficult to rise above that level.

Regards...

[newbie123]

Slavery...or as its sometimes called, 'wage slavery', is maintained through income and property tax.

Otherwise there would simply be a 'consumption tax' only...because everybody consumes.

We own nothing...we pay tax on everything.

We are no farther ahead at the end of the week than the slave of the american south...the great majority of what ever you earn is returned to the master through taxes.

This makes it extremely difficult to rise above that level.

Regards...

Don't kid yourself...  there are BIG differences between owning your own house (via mortgage) and paying property taxes..  vs.  being a slave in the south 100 years ago...

It is true that corporate entities (the rich) can manipulate the system (and people), and exploit tax laws that the poor cannot (or don't know about) to pay little or no taxes at all...  I agree this isn't fair.       But your views on these  situations  are very pessimistic  and extreme.     You are free to learn these  tricks and use them for your own benefit, that is the difference between being a laborer (slave) and a business owner (the master)...   Lots of very poor people are now very wealthy and not part of some 'crime' family or organized group.

I think  the divide between rich and poor creates the illusion there is a secret society...  When in fact, there probably isn't (today at least)....

80+ years ago the rich had even more power to manipulate, and there might have been 'evil wealthy groups' that manipulated laws, etc..   The mafia is a good example of this... Or even good ol' boy networks.     But now days, I think it's much harder to have a large organized crime networks (in the US, at least)....

[Cap-Z-ro]

Bottom line, semantics discounted...income and property taxes are repressive, with that intent.

Repression is the way slavery.

We are just fooling ourselves to think our governments are not organized crime.

Regards...

[newbie123]

...income and property taxes are repressive, with that intent.

Again..  This is speculation at best.    Show some "concrete proof" of the above statement.

Any further posts with nothing concrete to offer will just be removed in the future.

Regards...

[utilitarian]

Bottom line, semantics discounted...income and property taxes are repressive, with that intent.

Repression is the way slavery.

We are just fooling ourselves to think our governments are not organized crime.

Regards...

Do you think there is any chance at all that the intention of income taxes and real estate taxes is to generate money for the government to operate, rather than an effort to enslave its people via economic repression?

Do you know of any other way for the government to make money?  I think income taxes are overly complicated and real estate taxes, while simple, are a little high.  If the government was more efficient and less wasteful, we could have lower taxes, but even under ideal conditions, the government still needs quite a bit of money to operate.

I would not be opposed to scrubbing the US income tax system for some kind of a sales tax, but at least income tax is a progressive type of tax, where you could have lower income individuals pay a lesser percentage in taxes.  A sales tax system is regressive, in that it forces the poor to spend a higher percentage of their earnings in taxes, compared to the wealthy.  (A wealthy person can afford, for example, to spend only 10% of his income, and thereby pay no taxes on 90%, while a lower-income individual may end up spending 100% of his income on necessary items, paying sales tax on all of his income, in effect.)

So how would YOU propose that the government of any nation get necessary funds to operate?  There are things that we need government for, and those things require money.  Or are you a complete anarchist?   What type of taxation system does not enslave, and how would such a system differ from what we have in most western countries today?