Where will the energy come from, to run a Magnet Motor?

[Magluvin]

It is funny that it seems that no matter what configuration, whirling, gearing, Whiping, channeling, that all-magnet motors add up to a drag and come to a halt. Lets say you give one a whirl and we will call that speed 5, and when it stops eventually, we will call that 0. No matter what configuration, thus far known to the common people, it always comes down to a drag(stopping power) and will always reach zero. Doesnt that seem strange?
2 things I would say is, the problem is with the magnets themselves. They tend to remain in the state they are in, until altered, by other magnets, other metals, air, they will always cause negative effects against the goal of a working pmm. The constant ON of the fields of the PMs make things tough when interacting with other materials, and magnets.
The other thing is the strength of the magnets field remains constant.
Now if we were looking at an electric motor, even one with PMs for half of it, we have easier pole control, off, on, reverse fields and adjustable field strengths, this will be the ingredients to a design that will achieve OU before a pmm. It just has to be made differently than we are taught or shown.
It has to be made in a new way. Or an old way...

My Great grandfather had 2 motors connected at the shaft and the wires went to a box with a switch on the outside. This was in the 1910s. Turn on the switch, give it a whirl by hand and off she went. My grandfather told me it many times. At the time, Grandpa didnt get the importance of something like this. He was a kid. The setup was showed around town, and soon he began to recieve threats from big biz. So he tossed the box and that was the end of that. Later when Grandpa realized what his dad had, he looked and looked for that box, but never found it.
So what was in that box that was so special? Resistors? Old school capacitors? Inductors/transformers? Diodes? Not in those days unless it was tubes and the motors provided heater current.
What was in that box?  Well maybe Great Grandpappy was smarter than Grandpa thought.  Maybe it was just a switch and connections. Maybe the secret was in one or both of those motors.     Did Tesla have this back then? Did Great Grandpappy hang out with Tesla? I know that he knew Westinghouse, due to Great Grandpappy inventing a valve for the Air brake to improve it and they had dealings. And Westinghouse knew Tesla.  Maybe.

Magluvin

[allcanadian]

@newbie123
LOL, I know what you meant, I just wanted to clarify the terminology a bit for the members here. I agree with you on almost all points, I hold no grudge against any one or group of persons for what they may believe or not. What I have found personally however doesn't always coincide with what most people consider normal or sometimes even possible. I remember  three or four years ago I had built a device to light a 20w bulb 20ft away with only one wire and no ground leads, another was wireless power transfer lighting 10 Led's from four feet away. I remember that I was always much more interested in people's reaction to these devices than the actual devices themselves as it all seemed fairly straightforward from a technical standpoint. What was odd was that the people I demonstrated the machines for were technical people themselves and friends, but after they told me that they honestly had no idea that this was even possible let alone how I did it. Once I explained it was nothing more than a very high frequency/high potential resonant electric field then they understood what was happening and really had no issue with it. During the demonstration however they were dumb struck, their jaws dropped  and they said things like "how in the hell are you doing that", LOL. My lesson here was that psychology often plays a greater role in technology than the technology itself, for instance how can you build something you honestly believe will never work --- why would you even try. As well, do people believe that their opinion or others could somehow sway the actual reality of an event or fact?, ie.. could my friends not believing my experiments validity change the outcome?. In any case I have found there are people that know and understand many things not regarded as common knowledge, to such an extent that what they "know" is probably regarded by most of the world as impossible. I can also say these people have a determination or will to learn and understand like nothing most people can imagine, make no mistake it is an obsession which is why they succeed.
Regards
AC

[exxcomm0n]

I think allcanadians related experience can be summed up in a quote:

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
        Arthur C. Clarke, "Profiles of The Future", 1961 (Clarke's third law)
        English physicist & science fiction author (1917 - )

...if you can prepend "ignorance of" in front of "Any sufficiently advanced technology".

The ignorant aren't always that way because they choose to be and most, given the chance or reason, can usually graduate to being referred to another way given time.

As far as magnetic engines go, we just need to keep pushing the envelope with new discoveries about magnetism and other technologies to find where it (the envelope) opens.
i.e. lodestones may have been around and recognized for what they are for centuries, but superconductors we now know they can float above have not.

Nice post and good object lesson AC!

[newbie123]

ie.. could my friends not believing my experiments validity change the outcome?

Nope...    The placebo effect doesn't apply here.

In any case I have found there are people that know and understand many things not regarded as common knowledge, to such an extent that what they "know" is probably regarded by most of the world as impossible.

Like what?

[allcanadian]

@newbie123

ie.. could my friends not believing my experiments validity change the outcome?
Nope...    The placebo effect doesn't apply here.

Are you absolutely certain of this? I will give you an instance which may also answer your next question.

In any case I have found there are people that know and understand many things not regarded as common knowledge, to such an extent that what they "know" is probably regarded by most of the world as impossible.
Like what?

After the experiments described in my last post I continued to evolve the technology. I produced miniaturized self-oscillating tesla coils(3"x3"),there is no set frequency of oscillation as the devices trigger themselves. I found by adjusting the sensitivity I could turn these devices on and off from six feet away by simply moving my hand. Of course there is no mystery here, we are simply interacting with a HV/HF electric field. Next I duplicated this circuit and placed the two open loop self-oscillators at the equivalent of one radius away from one another. We have now set the stage whereby one oscillator may trigger itself and the other nanoseconds later producing a constructive interference pattern between the two in the mid-Mhz range. The field geometry would equate to one circle overlapping another, in sacred geometry this is called the "Vesica Piscis" which plays a very important role that many have yet to understand. It was found that if I placed myself at the midpoint between the oscillators the slightest twitch of my finger could produce large frequency deviations in the oscillators because in order to effect one you must effect both,they are dynamically linked. After some tuning the apparatus could detect not only motion but stress level, you could literally think something and modulate the frequency of oscillation. I understand to the layman this would seem beyond reason but in reality it is not that difficult to understand. The two oscillator fields produce a lensing effect in their central interference pattern in much the same way a microscope would, in fact the premise was based on optical phenomena. Now to my former question---"could my friends not believing my experiments validity change the outcome?", In this case yes my friends belief could literally dictate the outcome of an experiment because they have become an integral but distant part of it. This also relates to people and there preoccupation with tangible matter, they see what they know and what they have been taught to see but that is not all there is. We are immersed in dynamic fields and we have an electric field surrounding our bodies which some call an "aura", you can detect this field with a simple  oscilloscope. So you see in this instance what we believe may have effects we have never considered.
Regards
AC