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Overunity Machines Forum



Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

Started by TinselKoala, June 16, 2009, 09:52:52 PM

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BEP

Quote from: Harvey on September 21, 2009, 01:08:06 AM
I might know just a little bit about it. Using BOINC and the Einstein@home interface (which you can join here:http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/, I have been involved in in the MPP number crunching necessary for proper analysis of the retrieved data for the Ligo Project. But I really think the Lisa Project will be a much better test because of local frame dragging here on the surface and the way it will distort these waves even when they are presented by strong pulsars. I am (or actually my computer is) currently crunching the data for h1_0932.60_S5R4_S5R5a_0.

Q. How do you suppose the vernier adjustments on the mirrors move the mirrors, and what observation do you make as to the interference pattern as they are being adjusted?  ;)

8)

Quite the geek aren't you. Do you do anything useful ;D

Sorry, that is rude. It took me a while to shed my pocket protector  ;)

As far as his vernier adjustments they look like mechanical ones, like mine. Simply fine mechanical mirror angle thumb wheels. Mine are encased with the mirrors (old HP equipment). His equipment doesn't look any more complex, like electronic phase control, RF excitement or others.

The effects of the adjustments, as I see them?
I suspect I saw some shift from destructive to constructive. When the device rotated horizontally the left spot was 'con' and the right 'des'. When vertical both were constructive. That is the most important point I noted. I suspected the phase shift when rotated vertical and not because of mechanical deflection. More likely due to gravity lensing and Coriolis.

I'll bet the greatest shift is when he is on the dawn/dusk side during a lunar eclipse! How's that for nuts?

Personally, I have always considered LISA/LIGO a mass diversion and a waste of resources. Nothing personal about your choices  :)

Rosemary Ainslie

Hello MileHigh.  I barely recognise you.  A whole post and no insults?   ;D  No slaps and side swipes?   :o  Am daring a little optimism here.  Not to mention a certain dizzy well being in the general mind set.  At the moment things are looking rosy.  Keep it up and we'll have to apply to the powers that be to re-instate an honorary troll. 

I'll have to answer your post later though as half the day has gone and I've got a thousand things to do still.  But a pleasure to read you of late.

Off topic but by the way, my son has introduced me to George Carlin - bit irreverand but awfully funny.  I've tried to find a clip that is relatively innocuous - but you may enjoy it.  Strange man!  Have been dying to share it but you all probably know his work backwards.  I'm usually a century or so behind the times.  For what it's worth, herewith http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgps85scy1g&feature=related 

Rosemary Ainslie

Hi BEP - thanks for the explanation.  However.  Your post 1732 suggests something to the effect that 'the laser source must be external to that measured surface'.  I assumed that the results were thereby skewed because von Grusenick has the laser attached to the 'measured surface'.  So.  What are you proposing to vary in order to obviate this?  My own question - therefore - if the laser is suspended away from the measured surface how will it 'track' a revolving mirror?  And my question holds.  And I'm not sure what is meant by calcuating the centre of the variation range?  If the mirror is to be put in the centre - as you proposed, and then needs the laser to reflected and 'bounced off' it then - how?  The mirror is shown as having a flat surface.  On a rotating axis therefore it will not always present a reflective surface to the laser.  Again.  Apologies for the elemenatary questions.

Regarding the Lisa project, quite apart from the pretty prose used here the project surely bends the mind?  I can hardly envisage a distance of 5 million kilometers let alone three craft - in space - perfectly separated by such precise distances.  It beggars the mind.  As to the positioning of the craft as it relates to the Earth, Moon and Sun - I understood that the gravitational forces were weak but evident between all celestial bodies.  Therefore any ripple detected anywhere - would at least prove the exitence of gravity regardless as to what actually causes it. 

Gravity waves - particles, dark energy, aether - all are seriously postulated by some really profound thinkers in the field.  If there's any way to resolve these questions then I'd give it my vote.  After all - there's no better way to prove a thesis then subjecting it to some experimental tests.  The LISA project would possibly be expensive - but - again, if I had a vote I'd vote yes to it.  And  I imagine that our early church answered Galileo roughly on a par with your answer to the existence of 'Gravity waves or particles? or rather 'The earth moves around the Sun?  Come on.  Gimme a break'...'  That would definitely be an accurate synopsis of their reaction.

EDIT  Sorry I missed out on your last point 'c'.  If you know that this is the only thing distorting time - then can you prove it?  And by what experiment?

Rosemary Ainslie

Hi MileHigh.  I get it that regarding the interferometer experiment it may, indeed, be flawed.  BEP has proposed that the laser needs to be in a fixed position.  Would that resolve the problem?

:) :( ??? ??? :( ;D :( ??? ??? >:( :)  this is an example of an emotional oscillation with a strong negative bias.  ;D

Rosemary Ainslie

Hi Fuzzy - Can't understand why Stefan doesn't allow the avatar.  I could barely recognise you.  Shouldn't someone complain?  And while they're at it, mention that we need more emoticons.  It's a serious restriction on our freedom of expressions.   :o edit - maybe freedoms of expression.  2nd edit - or maybe freedoms of expressions?


I get it that the 10 Ohm resistor gave somewhat different results to Aaron's tested, notwithstanding only small variations to the actual inductance.  So strange.  And I hope Poynt takes due note of the difference between the two Tektronix instruments. 

And Fuzzy, may I say, I am eternally grateful that you took all this time out just to test that 'negative' number.  Awfully appreciative, if that helps at all. It was a marathon journey and above and beyond.  The irony is the more acute when one thinks of your proximity to their offices?   >:(  But the journey - I hope was worth it.  I know that Aaron et al were delighted to meet you.  And Aaron is boring me to tears with your accounts of grounding - and what not.  I think he's elevated you to the dizzy height of mentor.  So... Whatever your geographical positioning - just know your general standing is now giving me vertigo.

Thanks for everything Fuzzy.  The coolest of cool cats.  ;D   :-*