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Changing a car into an EV

Started by JoinTheFun, June 23, 2009, 04:35:26 PM

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Cloxxki

Just semi-OT on the solar cell idea: transparent collectors are possible now, so the car could be all-see through triplex of some kind, while charging on solar power.

Near 100% energy re-use would be to physically bump the car in front of you, just as the moment it's going to pull up again. Beats braking on generators to charge batteries. Waiting for someone to bump you each time you pull up though can get old quickly :-)

I love the GEET concept, but remmeber it's open source for 1 unit per replicator forn a 20hp unit, I believe. More appt for a motorbike or moped conversion perhaps?

d3adp00l

Ok someone asked for someone good with numbers, ok i am here.

Simple answer, can you replace all the mechanical crap tranmission with electronics in an ev, YES ford did it with their ranger. There was no transmission no driveshaft just an electric motor between the two back wheels. They controlled motor speed with 3 phase ac frequency, the motor would do from 1rpm to 14000.

Can you make an ev with a diesel or gas or propane range extension system, YES. It is quiet simple really, build an ev with 40-60 mile range, then drop in a 15-20kw generator (500-800cc engine) and at freeway speeds the generator can keep up with the electrical demand (weight depending) this would give you around 100mpg.

It can be done, but it isnt being done because they want your money. If I can calc the math (and I have many times) then so could the engineers. it is done by design.

if you add some heat reclaimation of the engine to the system the range becomes rediculous.

I currently have an f150 truck with a bad engine just for this purpose. And as I stuff into saving I am building it. The f150 is one of the most prolic and useful vehicles around if it can work, then ALL can work end of story.

Put an aluminum ladder rack with 1.4kw worth of solar (which is the area of the rack) and now it extends even further, and can charge itself. Yes it would take a long time to fully charge the batteries, and the solar would not keep up with the drive speed usage. But if I had 40 miles range, and drove 30 miles to work and it charged for 8-10 hours i would get 11.2-14 kwhr for free, which would be more than the power it took me to drive to work (roughly 35-45 miles).

WE HAVE THE ABILITY NOW, but the prices are kept high so it is not finacially cheaper to do it, which means none of us will do it because we always use the price as the most important factor.
History is full of people who out of fear,
Or ignorance, or lust for power have
destroyed knowledge of immeasurable
value which truly belongs to us all.

WE must not let it happen again.
-Carl Sagan

Goat

@ d3adp00l & All

After looking at the latest GEET mpg it would seem that a small diesel engine/generator has become more feasible (If proven) to extend the mileage, my main beef is the $10.000 US + to convert but then again a new vehicle isn't any cheaper...only problem is coming up with the money up front to pay for the switch over...but at least now it looks more realistic if the GEET works...it would solve the problem of draining the batteries too much while in use and save them from premature failure.

Regards,
Paul


TheOne

I got an old Land Rover Discovery 1996 just for that purpose. I want to convert it to an EV, but its automatic, I will see what I will do later because automatic is not really good for an EV.

Right now I need to repair the garage before playing with this project :)

And one of my wish is ZENN release their new EV with the EESTOR capacitor, so we can buy this capacitor for our own EV.


d3adp00l

If you have the ability to start the project, don't wait on geet to get it going. the generator is the last piece. sit down and plan out your system, figure out how much it will cost (looks like you have), and start procuring what you need. Force yourself out of the norm, and into the solution.
History is full of people who out of fear,
Or ignorance, or lust for power have
destroyed knowledge of immeasurable
value which truly belongs to us all.

WE must not let it happen again.
-Carl Sagan