Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[wattsup]

@ronotte

Thanks for your last posts.

OK, about the trumpet waveform that we all see at point #11, I think I know what is happening. Point #11 is just before the AV plug. So what is going on. The HV has voltage but very little amperage and your capacitor even in pF value have some ability to accumulate the charge passing the AV plug. But the output of HV is more reactive so you need alot of voltage to fill up the capacitors. It can all be brought down to joules. So from the shortest rise in the wave the capacitor starts filling up in about 15 increments. For the right waveform it is easier to count the increments. The setting is on 0.1mS or 1000Hz per division. The waveform crosses two divisions so you have at every 2000Hz a spark discharge but the applied frequency is around 30kH because you have 15 increments. To prove this all you have to do is do the measurements again to get a repetitive waveform then you add an extra capacitor across the AV. The new waveform should be the same but now the stem of the waveform should be longer. So if you add more capacitance, it will take longer for the rise until the spark can occur again. If you remove a capacitor, the stem will be shorter and you will have faster sparks at the same applied 30kH.

This would be a simple way to test the effect and know once and for all about the trumpet waveform. It is all relative to the amount of joules produced per master cycle by the HV device. If the joules are in the low range, then the trumpet will be easier to produce. If the joules HV output is greater (probably like my set-up with my big flyback), then there will be now trumpet unless I should add more capacitance then what is recommended on the official schematic. So ultimately the schematic values are only relevant to the HV method and output in joules.

wattsup

Added:

If I take this one step further, the trumpet waveform showing incremental power increase also confirms that the HV output is not overloading and possibly also not creating a backwards reflection though the flyback. As long as you can see a trumpet waveform, you will now the power is always moving forward. Actually you could say the HV output is under the spark threshold and needs time to accumulate. This is good because you are not wasting energy.

Now look at @stiveps last video with his 5 capacitors in parallel and he is using I think three HV diodes in parallel per direction fo rhis AV plug. He is passing much more juice with his HV transformer then you could do with the Katcher device. But it is all relative.

Also, the 30kH is because you have two diodes in the AV plug at 15kH each.

[ronotte]

@ronotte

Thanks for your last posts.

OK, about the trumpet waveform that we all see at point #11, I think I know what is happening. Point #11 is just before the AV plug. So what is going on. The HV has voltage but very little amperage and your capacitor even in pF value have some ability to accumulate the charge passing the AV plug. But the output of HV is more reactive so you need alot of voltage to fill up the capacitors. It can all be brought down to joules. So from the shortest rise in the wave the capacitor starts filling up in about 15 increments. For the right waveform it is easier to count the increments. The setting is on 0.1mS or 1000Hz per division. The waveform crosses two divisions so you have at every 2000Hz a spark discharge but the applied frequency is around 30kH because you have 15 increments. To prove this all you have to do is do the measurements again to get a repetitive waveform then you add an extra capacitor across the AV. The new waveform should be the same but now the stem of the waveform should be longer. So if you add more capacitance, it will take longer for the rise until the spark can occur again. If you remove a capacitor, the stem will be shorter and you will have faster sparks at the same applied 30kH.

This would be a simple way to test the effect and know once and for all about the trumpet waveform. It is all relative to the amount of joules produced per master cycle by the HV device. If the joules are in the low range, then the trumpet will be easier to produce. If the joules HV output is greater (probably like my set-up with my big flyback), then there will be now trumpet unless I should add more capacitance then what is recommended on the official schematic. So ultimately the schematic values are only relevant to the HV method and output in joules.

wattsup

Added:

If I take this one step further, the trumpet waveform showing incremental power increase also confirms that the HV output is not overloading and possibly also not creating a backwards reflection though the flyback. As long as you can see a trumpet waveform, you will now the power is always moving forward. Actually you could say the HV output is under the spark threshold and needs time to accumulate. This is good because you are not wasting energy.

Now look at @stiveps last video with his 5 capacitors in parallel and he is using I think three HV diodes in parallel per direction fo rhis AV plug. He is passing much more juice with his HV transformer then you could do with the Katcher device. But it is all relative.

Also, the 30kH is because you have two diodes in the AV plug at 15kH each.

@wattsup,

I mostly agree with you. I already tried to increase the cap on AV plug and have seen that spike repetition rate decreases and of course the available HV increases. So all depends on optimizing the cap in order do not surcharge the SG and/or overload the HV source. At the moment I do not have a sealed SG with 5-6KV rating so I will have to use the standard mechanical air-gap approach much like that you showed. Of course like you said all is relative in the sense that working with a low HV is useful only to gain experience: in that case I did it

Yes, stivep is going for power and used diodes rated probably 100-200mA so he needed to increase that capability. In my case I used 15KV/150mA diodes...and checked they heated up to 40-50 degrees Centigrade after 10 minutes of operation.

My Kacher device is certainly not comparable with a standard flyback.....

Now, that I saw what to look for, its time to setup again the big dimmerable Ventex HV generator 6-9KV @30-40 KHz...OR a standard Variac/MOT unit...but only after all the necessary safety care fully applied.

Roberto

[blocki]

Hello everybody,

I'm new here, the Kapanadze thing is pretty interesting.

I found this on a Russian website...
It is a possible Kapanadze generator.
I'm interested in building this.
Is there anyone of you guys working on this one. This thread is so long, I cannot find it.

Greetings, blocki

[forest]

ronotte, what if you disconnect ground connection ?  does it come something from ground to charge capacitor ?

[ronotte]

@forest,
that's one of my first test! and I repeat it many times in order to see if any difference for several different operating point:
NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL
So, this means that ground, at least in this case, does not play any role.
Roberto