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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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     Once a spark gap arcs over your done as far as energy collection.  You are simply going to discharge your supply capacitor and radiate a bunch of rf-hf-uv etc.  The spark current will fluctutate as plasma is formed due to the voltage drop across the gap-becomes conductive- decreases the voltage drop- conducts-cools-voltage drop increases-becomes conductive-cools-etc. repeated at all sorts of frequencies.  Tesla worked years on getting nasty spark gaps used by radio telegraphy for ship to shore communications cleaned up.  (I think this tale about hertz discovering rf transmission is bs.  Telegraph operators working for ma bell would use high impedance relay coils at repeater stations.  Multispectrum rf from worn out relay contacts would fly all around the repeater shacks and crosstalk with unactuated relays.  This nusance activation was explored and antennae developed with trial an error capacitance to form the first wireless telegraphy.  They had no idea about oscillations and tuning etc.  That was Tesla's domain.  He gave us channels which allowed multiple users to send morse code simultaneously instead of waiting for someone to shut-up before the next user communicated.)  The original wireless was actually using rlc oscillators where resistance is modified by the spark gap activity at the high frequencies needed to transmit small enough waves to keep antennae to reasonable sizes.  The entire polarization about the field of the antennae is neglected and the transverse fields generated due to the currents flowing within the antennae mass used.  We still use this stupid transmission process.  We put sharp pointed conductors way up in the air and transmit the current produced between node and antinode as the transients move from oscillator to antennae.  Telsa's magnifying transmitter was oscillator and antennae and power supply all rolled up into one.  The entire charge state of the radiator conveying information.  In a sense this was not wireless communication it was one wire.  The entire Earth was going to get pumped.  Tesla was amazed at the very small amount of charge the Earth would absorb before it's permittivity was maxed.  I think it's in the microfarads or something.  Everyone looks at the dome and thinks this is where the radiation would come from.  No it's in the ground radiator he spent most of JPMorgans money on.  The ground was going to radiate the collector collect.  Large amounts of coronal uptake from beta radiation beating the krap out of his sky node was going to power that beast.  I would have loved to have seen that baby outlined with St. Elmos fire while Marconi was out on Cape Cod putting up sky antennaes to get a couple of microwatts across the ocean. 

   Veripies is right to the extent that electrons are not energy nor is charge.  Electrons in motion are not even energy.  Electromagnetic waves are energy though.  When an electron changes it's velocity or vector it produces a photon.  This photon has a direct relationship to the change in either mass velocity or vector of the electron.  An electron bound to a neuclide has certain inertial parameters.  It's mass-velocity-and vector  are pretty much stable.  A photon can disrupt the columb force binding an electron to an atom.  A photon can carry an electric field that not only disupts the columb force but also accelerates the unbound electron.  This is why the wavelength of the photon not the number of photons is responsible for the amount of potential energy an unbound electron carries.  The incident photon can cause a cascade event as the initial electron brakes in either an inelastic collision with other bound electrons or becomes subject to an external magnetic field.  In either case the created photons result in large magnitudes of accelerated electrons from one incidental ionization of one single atom.  If the electrons in question were motionless massless particles this would be impossible.  Electrons do have mass-they do have motion-and they do have direction.  Energy is simply exchange of inertia between matter.  So if you're looking for a free energy scource outside of messing around with mass to energy conversion I would start with the mass-velocity-and orbital momentum of the bound electron as a potential scource.
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Quote from: wasabi on December 02, 2012, 05:51:22 AM
Perhaps because it is obvious, that the avalanche multiplication of relativistic electrons (or positrons) requires nuclear reactions in which one beta particle causes the release of at least two beta particles.

...and such multiplying beta nuclear reactions do not exist, do they ?

Without them, the number of released betas cannot grow in McFreey 's  scheme :( .
"...The important requirement is that whenever the particle is absorbed, on average, it triggers the emission of more than one particle..." (W.J.McFreey)
Since you claim that this is impossible, I would leave it up to you to prove it  :) .
On the other hand, Kapanadze, Mark and others showed that this is possible.
P.S.
I hope you also noticed that creation of energy from nothing is impossible.

wasabi

Quote from: yfree on December 02, 2012, 02:41:17 PM
"...The important requirement is that whenever the particle is absorbed, on average, it triggers the emission of more than one particle..." (W.J.McFreey)
I'm glad, that I am not the only one who has noticed that.

Quote from: yfree on December 02, 2012, 02:41:17 PM
Since you claim that this is impossible, I would leave it up to you to prove it  :)
I have never encountered such a multiplying beta nuclear reaction, thus I am proposing that it does not exist.
It is impossible to prove or disprove an existential negative because absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Because of the above I am afraid that the burden of proof that such beta reactions exists, rests on you :(

Quote from: yfree on December 02, 2012, 02:41:17 PM
On the other hand, Kapanadze, Mark and others showed that this is possible.
Unfortunately there is no proof that those devices operate via multiplying beta reactions.
Of course, it is not your fault that the inventors did not provide conclusive scientific evidence. (e.g. darkening of a photo film, cloud chamber tracks, Penning trap measurements... or even scopeshots) for the emission of beta particles, from the perimeter of the disks (gain media).
I am not rejecting the possibility offhand, though.  That's why I am discussing it here.
If those reactions do happen, then they must have been observed by other scientists during the myriad of nuclear experiments that have been made during the last century.

Quote from: yfree on December 02, 2012, 02:41:17 PM
I hope you also noticed that creation of energy from nothing is impossible.
I'd accept that the energy comes from something we don't know/understand, before I'd accept that it comes from nothing.
An idea that energy comes from some new application of known conversion process is even more appealing.

x_name41

Quote from: wasabi on December 02, 2012, 03:30:40 PM
I'm glad, that I am not the only one who has noticed that.
I have never encountered such a multiplying beta nuclear reaction, thus I am proposing that it does not exist.
It is impossible to prove or disprove an existential negative because absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Because of the above I am afraid that the burden of proof that such beta reactions exists, rests on you :(
Unfortunately there is no proof that those devices operate via multiplying beta reactions.
Of course, it is not your fault that the inventors did not provide conclusive scientific evidence. (e.g. darkening of a photo film, cloud chamber tracks, Penning trap measurements... or even scopeshots) for the emission of beta particles, from the perimeter of the disks (gain media).
I am not rejecting the possibility offhand, though.  That's why I am discussing it here.
If those reactions do happen, then they must have been observed by other scientists during the myriad of nuclear experiments that have been made during the last century.
I'd accept that the energy comes from something we don't know/understand, before I'd accept that it comes from nothing.
An idea that energy comes from some new application of known conversion process is even more appealing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPZ5aodHYmo
as well one shouting "тупые америкосы" ;D

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