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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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baroutologos

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@Barouto, the link is the one posted above which I had already posted or here:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_27.htmpdf:
http://home.comcast.net/~onichelson/ONichelsonTeslaLetter.pdf

  The article Tesla refers to is "Uses electricity without a medium".

  The 2 words in doubt in the transcript should be "...but you pressed me *so hard* that I did not have enough energy left to do it."
   There is also this article in the archives called "Utilization of atmospheric electricity":

http://tinyurl.com/27ydayp
   and this one titled "Scientist's claim - the utilization of atmospheric electricity has a great discovery been made"

I had my time, to study the Clemente's claims,  Latter of Tesla to his friend and Century Magazine editor "Luca" and Tesla's article, on Increasing human energy again.
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What it becomes clear is that Clemente's invention as Tesla has definetely said to do with atmospheric energy (it say so by the way) and closely relates to Tesla's patent "Apparatus fro utilizing Radiant Energy", but here Tesla gives a totally different explanation. (rotary movement of earth instead of charged particles)
Tesla agrees that with atmospheric electricity we can capture small amounts of energy and somehow questions Clemente's claims of small apparatus giving huge output.

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Regarding Tesla's article concerning self acting machine employing an "energy sink", what we all fail to see (as i understand it) is that electricity fails to comply with this concept, at least in the examined setups.
Why?
Be causes electricity is a movement of charged particles. (electrons) Their concentrations defines the potential differences.
The necessary condition for such a sink to exist is that the incoming particles should "vaporize" and dis sapear (and producing energy) during their fall to the sink, thus few or none reaching the "bottom" and sink stays there.

Actually the Radiant energy Utilization Patent or Hermann Plauson's Conversion of Atmospheric Electricity patent employs such a "sink hole" between ground and a spiked aerial connection and utilizing or converting the energy during the electron's motion from ground to their airdispersion.

At a first look, such setups are cumbersome and inefficient comparing with compact multi-KW FE devices or even photovoltaics,
But its a start at least...



iceweller

Quote from: baroutologos on December 26, 2010, 05:34:49 AM
I had my time, to study the Clemente's claims,  Latter of Tesla to his friend and Century Magazine editor "Luca" and Tesla's article, on Increasing human energy again.
...
What it becomes clear is that Clemente's invention as Tesla has definetely said to do with atmospheric energy (it say so by the way) and closely relates to Tesla's patent "Apparatus fro utilizing Radiant Energy", but here Tesla gives a totally different explanation. (rotary movement of earth instead of charged particles)
Tesla agrees that with atmospheric electricity we can capture small amounts of energy and somehow questions Clemente's claims of small apparatus giving huge output.

   It's Tesla's Primary and Secondary Solar Rays. This paper I attached by prof Andre' Waser is one of the last before he "disappeared" and couldn't communicate with him anymore (apparently absorbed by a large research corporation or something...). It is very well made with all references and can help you save a great deal of time cross referencing so if you haven't read it, please do. It is not easy to convey what Tesla meant with his analogies in a few words as he "leveled" on every different situation or problem, though keep in mind that this was meant to show that a key factor is changing one form of energy into another in a novel way. Tesla also made other claims, like in his manifesto, such as "burning atmospheric Nitrogen 12 million Volts" - they were literally all novel forms of energy extraction and conversion.



baroutologos

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   It's Tesla's Primary and Secondary Solar Rays...

hello Iceweller,

Personally i found the article amusing but IMO , Professor Andre, does the same mistakes many researchers do about Tesla.
They try to decipher Tesla's work and attribute his whole inventions to a single axis and somehow connect it to the Wondercliff tower.

Wrong! Tesla was a skilled experimenter and has been involved in a great number of experimental fields, as robotics, electricity, mechanical machinery, radiations, weaponry, etc
Each patent and each experiment it should be handled on its own ground i believe.

Nevertheless, the idea that a huge power radiation befalls to the earth and Tesla tried to tune his tower to its unlikely to be true.
(although a possibility)


iceweller

Quote from: baroutologos on December 27, 2010, 02:46:45 AM
hello Iceweller,

Personally i found the article amusing but IMO , Professor Andre, does the same mistakes many researchers do about Tesla.
They try to decipher Tesla's work and attribute his whole inventions to a single axis and somehow connect it to the Wondercliff tower.

Wrong! Tesla was a skilled experimenter and has been involved in a great number of experimental fields, as robotics, electricity, mechanical machinery, radiations, weaponry, etc
Each patent and each experiment it should be handled on its own ground i believe.

Nevertheless, the idea that a huge power radiation befalls to the earth and Tesla tried to tune his tower to its unlikely to be true.
(although a possibility)

   I don't know why you got the "single axis" impression, as the article was focused on Tesla's interpretation of Cosmic rays, and not all of his inventions which are each seperately researched but connected to each other in his line of research (because that's how Tesla worked, researching one thing, discovering and branching - I know pretty damn well). Though I do not fully agree on all of the points Waser mentions, he does a pretty good job in gathering the important aspects and cross referencing. This is a part of Tesla's Dynamic Theory of Gravity but we are running really off topic here. Suffice to say, that what pushed Tesla in his life long research, is something that most people don't even consider plausible, and is one of the main reasons he was carefully moved into oblivion - certainly not just because he was a "bad business man" and because Morgan blackballed him. You seem to be playing with the right deck of cards, so I'm sure you must have an idea.