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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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John M

Bolt,

Sorry that I am not up to speed on this. Could you point me to a thread with a successful replication that would help. Also wouldn't a Joule Thief type circuit lock on to the resonant sub harmonic resonant frequency of the core?

verpies

This is the long reply that was delayed over 12h because the forum database was down.

Quote from: grizli on November 04, 2011, 06:51:56 AM
Why is feedback needed for keeping frequency? its quite opposite, feedback is usually needed when you tune frequency to something.

If you have signal generator and set one frequency it will stay the same for ever

I am still confused here ...

Indeed. I also do not know which one of the following generator configurations is meant by the  authors:

1) A signal generator forcefully driving a primary winding at a fixed independent frequency
2) The primary winding constituting an integral part in the generator's oscillator's circuit closed by the 1 turn feedback winding.
3) Two signal generators, blindly driving two primary windings at fixed frequencies (as in pt.1), are mutually locked in-phase with an aid of two separate 1 turn feedback windings.

In the beginning I thought the primaries were driven according to the scenario depicted in pt.1, since that scheme requires just 2 wires between one signal generator and one primary winding and that's what I had been seeing on the videos.
Also the following T-1000 statement seemed to support this scenario:

Quote from: T-1000 on November 03, 2011, 05:40:28 PM
Each generator has feedback with 1 turn on coil and keeps own frequency no matter what changes inside of coil. This is where you get synchronization.

...but then I have  read that there are some 1 turn feedback windings, a la pt.2.
This would mean that the primary is not driven blindly by the signal generator and participates in determining the frequency of the oscillation. In this case the oscillation frequency is most likely a subharmonic of the natural resonance of the complex LRC circuit, f=1/(LC)^0.5, formed by the inductance of the primary winding, its distributed inter-winding capacitance and the mutual inductance of the other primary and secondary windings as well as their inter-winding capacitances with deliberate capacitances added in the form of physical capacitors.
This scheme would require at least 3 wires between one signal generator and a primary winding with the feedback winding and would have the desirable side effect of phase locking the two signal generators via the mutual inductance of the two primaries.

In the scenario of phase synchronization of two absolute signal generators described in pt.3, it should be mentioned that it can also be accomplished in other manner, such as supplying the arbitrary signal generators with a common digital clock source or dedicated phase-synch I/O built into the signal generators.

The following Terminator's (T-1000) words suggest that there indeed exists some kind of phase lock established between the Low Frequency (LF) primary winding and High Frequency (HF) primary winding:

Quote from: T-1000 on November 03, 2011, 05:40:28 PM
The 50Hz is approx frequency because obviously we need standard frequency out of coil. You can tune +/- few Hertz and see where this frequency starts carrying frequency from coil of 51 turns.

Anyway, we replicators really must know if there is:
a) A phase-lock between the natural resonance waveform of the complex LRC circuit and the HF signal generator/oscillator.
b) A phase-lock between the natural resonance waveform of the complex LRC circuit and the LF signal generator/oscillator.
c) A phase lock between the HF and LF signal generators/oscillators, independent of pt.1 and pt.b
d) An integer frequency ratio between the HF and LF signal generators/oscillators, such that LO frequency < HF frequency.
e) An integer frequency ratio between the natural resonance frequency of the complex LRC  circuit and the frequency of the LF signal generator/oscillator, such that f=1/(LC)^0.5 > LF frequency
f) An integer frequency ratio between the natural resonance frequency of the complex LRC  circuit and the frequency of the HF signal generator/oscillator, such that f=1/(LC)^0.5 > HF frequency

It seems that the natural resonance frequency of the complex LRC circuit, f=1/(LC)^0.5, is the master waveform from which all the other waveforms are causaly derived.

If true, then this waveform relationship could be causaly and diagramatically depicted as

ComplexLRC.freq --> HF --> LF

meaning that:
HF is derived from ComplexLRC.freq and phase-locked to it.
LF is derived from HF and phase-locked to it.

where
ComplexLRC.freq > HF > LF

and
HF/LF = a natural number

and
ComplexLRC.freq / HF = a natural number

...only inventors or experimentation can confirm which of the above is true or false.

Jdo300

Quote from: T-1000 on November 04, 2011, 01:24:27 PM~380Hkz is lowest harmonics with highest amplitude for resonant point and we try to keep with lowest frequencies as possible due skin effect and EM radiation after. The natural resonant frequency is 1,66Mhz in our case - http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/1_spectr_analiz_ferit.jpg

@Verpies,

I was actually going to ask a lot of the same questions as you but since you've already thoroughly outlined what I see also as the primary confusion with the syncing issue, I'll refrain from further comments until we here back from Wesley & T-1000.

With regard to frequency sources, I have a custom-build Dual DDS function generator board with two independent 20 MHz output channels. This is connected to a microcontroller and gives me complete control over the phase and frequency of both outputs. The device can output both sine and square signals for testing. Once we have a more clear view of the input drive requirements, I'll be able to come up with a more definitely input driver design (either with my existing system or a custom-build one for this device).

- Jason O

Mannix

This might help as a 51 turn circuit or just to show how filtering the reference signal is used on the input to create a sync pulse for the oscillator which may be running at a slightly different frequency, or even a completely differnt one  . It is all about finding the right phase lock as far as i can tell. Yep lots of work to do! Sorry about the valve but the fast phase response my be very important. SM said it was critical for his device.
Many peope will not have access to a specrtum analyser . I am hopefull that a method will be developed as we build and experiment to eliminate the need.

T-1000

Ok, here is some food for theoretics :)

http://home.dmv.com/~tbastian/ball.htm

Quote from: N.Tesla on November 04, 2011, 06:42:42 PM
"...it became apparent that the fireballs resulted form the interaction of two frequencies, a stray higher frequency wave imposed on the lower frequency oscillations of the main circuit....
This condition acts as a trigger which may cause the total energy of the powerful longer wave to be discharged in a infinitesimally small interval of time and the proportionately tremendously great rate of energy movement which cannot confine itself to the metal circuit and is released into surrounding space with inconceivable violence. It is but a step, from the learning how a high frequency current can explosively discharge a lower frequency current, to using the principle to design a system in which these explosions can be produced by intent."   -N. Tesla

So, instead of making ball lightning, we're about to use this energy for our electrical circuits ... :)