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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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verpies

@Wesley (stevep)

Your argument that the difference in power consumption of the power supply between 10W and 13W is indicative of the 3W power consumption by the device connected to that power supply (load), is illogical.

I can easily invalidate this claim by making power measurement of a simple SHUNT REGULATED POWER SUPPLY that has a Zener diode at the output of the power supply. See the attached schematic.
In more practical linear power supplies power transistors substitute for the Zener diodes.

Anyway, in case of the aforementioned shunt power supply, its input current will not change as I attach a 3ohm load to the output.  The input power will be 72W with and without the load, but the load will disssipate over 8W when connected
According to your thinking a 3ohm load connected to the output of this power supply does not dissipate any power because its input power does not change (72W - 72W = 0W ).

That's why it is important to measure the input power to your devices correctly. e.g. not doing measurements of current before regulators (current is not power anyway), and many other bad methods. See:

Quote from: verpies on November 28, 2011, 06:30:26 AM

Q1) WHAT ARE THE CREDIBLE INPUT & OUTPUT POWER MEASUREMENTS of the SAAAR Tube device? 

Note that:
1) Maximum power ratings of transformers are not indicative of power being transferred through a transformer (albeit they might establish loose upper limits of that power if the waveforms transferred are at the rated frequency and shape).
   a) Maximum power ratings of transformers at different frequencies than the operating one (and different waveform shapes than the rated one) do not constitute a valid power limit for that transformer.
2) Average current measured by a ammeter/multimeter does not constitute power.
   a) Furthermore AC Current measured by an ammeter whose maximum frequency rating is below the frequency of the measured current is not credible.
3) Average voltage measured by a voltmeter/multimeter does not constitute power.
   a) Furthermore AC Voltage measured by a voltmeter whose maximum frequency rating is below the frequency of the measured voltage is not credible.
4) Credible Average Current multiplied by Credible Average Voltage does not constitute Power for non-DC waveforms.  Sorry guys, 1 Amp * 1 Volt  = 1 Watt is true only for non-pulsating DC current.
   a) Credible RMS current multiplied by Credible RMS Voltage does not constitute Power for non-DC waveforms. 
5) The power rating of a light bulb does not constitute power
   a) An incandescent 100W bulb can be lit with 20W of power or 130W of electric power.  The latter is not good for it but a high quality bulb will last for hours in such overdriven condition.
6) The brightness of an incandescent light bulb is a good indicator of dissipated power (especially if the bulb does not have a coiled filament), however:
   a) Unquantifiable bulb brightness is not credible. To be quantifiable the brightness must be measured by a monotonic optical sensor such as photodiode, phototransistor or photoresistor isolated from ambient light. The brightness calibration should be done with known DC current.
   b) A video camera with a variable position, variable ambient lighting and an automatic aperture, is not a credible bulb brightness sensor.

baroutologos

@ jbignes5

Its quite "catchy" to talk all the time about Tesla and present concepts. This is amusing, perhaps experimental - inspiring but unfortunatelly nothing OU useful so far.
Why do you try some concepts in a simple format and report? :P After all this site is all about experimentation. :)

@ Verpie,

You are right about power measurmments. They have plentily deceived many in the past. An experienced eye, however, can readily perceive if there is any OU in the circuit, especially if everything is fed by a battery. Ultimatelly, a self runner will seal the case. This is why i constantly press for dispensing with FGs and making custom inverters etc

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Quote from: baroutologos on November 29, 2011, 11:44:30 AM
Ultimatelly, a self runner will seal the case. This is why i constantly press for dispensing with FGs and making custom inverters etc

That is left for you to do after you repeat our experiments successfully... :)

ramset

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