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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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Farmhand

Quote from: forest on March 23, 2013, 06:27:17 AM
Stop that rubbish!  Of course overunity means a conversion device , there is no way to break physic law. If you can tap distant pulsar energy and got COP infinite it's still overunity, because it's better then underunity devices we use today. DO NOT DISREGARD OVERUNITY DEVICES. It's another method of supression.

Well I'm not disregarding over unity devices as such, Solar devices must be over unity just as much as any other device with more out than in then.

The beauty of unity is that nothing is ever really lost, energy is not destroyed.

I think 99% of us agree that we are looking for new sources of energy or new ways to harness energy from the environment with
the result of more energy out than we put in, or over 100% efficient by those terms.  If that is over unity then so is a solar system
a wind turbine, natural hydro power , atmospheric potential utilization devices, zero point energy and growing crops.

Can you give an example of how a truly closed system could increase it's potential energy ?

Life is based on collecting and harvesting from the environment, always has been.

Cheers




Hoppy

Quote from: Farmhand on March 24, 2013, 05:30:40 AM
Well I'm not disregarding over unity devices as such, Solar devices must be over unity just as much as any other device with more out than in then.


Cheers

A solar panel is a very inefficient energy conversion device, so by strict definition cannot be overunity. However, if it powers a device without any other source of non-environmental energy input such as from the grid or battery, as the sun's energy is not paid for by the user, the system is said to be running at COP infinity, although it is still way under unity. If the measured electrical output energy from the solar panel could in some way be amplified in a device, such that its output energy was more than the total system input energy, then the system would be running over unity. A COP infinity system is therefore not over unity.

forest

Don't complicate. Overunity is simply more then unity  ;D , it's a very rough statement and trying to give it a detailed scientific reason is not appropriate. Device is overunity when producing more energy/power then then obvious input energy/power. In every case there is COP >1 also and of course hidden energy input and efficiency of conversion may be very low indeed. ;D

Hoppy

Quote from: forest on March 24, 2013, 07:34:51 AM
Don't complicate. Overunity is simply more then unity  ;D , it's a very rough statement and trying to give it a detailed scientific reason is not appropriate. Device is overunity when producing more energy/power then then obvious input energy/power. In every case there is COP >1 also and of course hidden energy input and efficiency of conversion may be very low indeed. ;D

I think you finding it difficult to see the wood from the trees  ;D

I admit to one error in my last post. That is, I should have said that a COP infinity system is not necessarily running overunity. COP is measure of performance related to user input to output energy.