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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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d3x0r

Quote from: verpies on November 11, 2013, 05:46:13 AM
No, pressure differential is potential energy, not the pressure alone.

Fish don't feel the pressure because thy don't experience any pressure differentials. If they have gas bladders or other empty cavities inside their bodies that cannot resist the external pressure, then pressure differentials are created and fish can feel them.

At least in the fish example you have water (a proven tangible thing) that is the carrier of the pressure.  In energetic devices, you don't have any such medium, unless you postulate an ephemeral and unmeasurable Aether - a concept that has been tried and failed.

Electric charge (just like water) by itself, is not energy, either - just look at the units W=½QV
Likewise, water (and analogous media) is not energy unless you can decompose it to cause a pressure differential.

For example, you could make water electrolysis on the bottom of an ocean.  The bubbles of oxygen and hydrogen would rise to the surface performing useful mechanical work. Finally you could burn the hydrogen and oxygen at the surface in a flame or fuel cell and recover even more energy.
Maybe you could even get more energy that way than you had put into the electrolysis at the ocean's floor ;)
Two things; if they don't experience pressure differentials, then dynamite fishing wouldn't work.


if you electrolosized water at the bottom of the ocean, the pressure would immediately dissolve it back into water and it wouldn't form a bubble.

captainkt

@Hoppy, It sounds simple to disconnect earth whilst device is running but in practice quite dangerous, I ended up changing earths with my device running and got a severe shock, so severe I lost use of left arm for 3 days. Just a comment.  Looking at Wesley earth in cellar the connection to me looks perfect, In fact it is bolted to a girder so how do you make the girder live and earth at same time.             PS. I believe a.king with no reservations.
Regards
Keith

verpies

Quote from: d3x0r on November 11, 2013, 05:54:33 AM
if they don't experience pressure differentials, then dynamite fishing wouldn't work.
but they do, because sound creates pressure differentials. Acoustic waves do not propagate with infinite speed and the sound pressure does not increase equally in all locations simultaneously.

Quote from: d3x0r on November 11, 2013, 05:54:33 AM
if you electrolyzed water at the bottom of the ocean, the pressure would immediately dissolve it back into water and it wouldn't form a bubble.
That's just wrong - HHO will not rebond into water under that pressure. As the water solution becomes saturated with gases, it will become incapable of holding any more gases and bubbles will form, albeit small ones.
Any gases dissolved in the liquid will outgas out of the solution as the pressure falls closer to the surface, giving the appearance of gas coming out of water, thus the outgassing process makes the solution totally reversible.
BTW: The efficiency of electrolysis (mol/J) increases with pressure. 
Also, water electrolysis can actually be endothermic at certain voltages. See here and  here.

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: a.king21 on November 10, 2013, 08:58:01 PM
The braid was disconnected for a short time. The device kept running the whole time.
Then what is the braid for when the device kept running without it? Since the braid was connected to a non-conductive(?) concrete slab my best guess is that this specific device (contrary to the green box) does not need any grounding at all.

Quote from: verpies on November 11, 2013, 05:46:13 AM
Likewise, water (and analogous media) is not energy unless you can decompose it to cause a pressure differential.
Then how to decompose the Earth's electric field and into what? If we could figure that out then we would be on the finish line.

In the absence of a better fitting explanation, the Kapanadze device a) taps the Earth's electric field and b) uses a Faraday cage of some sort in order to do this. I'm convinced of that. Maybe one should talk to Kapanadze and mention the Earth's electric field and a Faraday cage. And then closely observe his reaction to this words. 8)

:D Lec 5 | MIT 8.02 Electricity and Magnetism, Spring 2002 :D

a.king21

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on November 11, 2013, 11:08:25 AM
Then what is the braid for when the device kept running without it? Since the braid was connected to a non-conductive(?) concrete slab my best guess is that this specific device (contrary to the green box) does not need any grounding at all.
Then how to decompose the Earth's electric field and into what? If we could figure that out then we would be on the finish line.

In the absence of a better fitting explanation, the Kapanadze device a) taps the Earth's electric field and b) uses a Faraday cage of some sort in order to do this. I'm convinced of that. Maybe one should talk to Kapanadze and mention the Earth's electric field and a Faraday cage. And then closely observe his reaction to this words. 8)

The Kapanadze earth is in both his patents.  May I suggest you study his patents, because the answer is surely there.