Circumventing the Lentz law

[gyulasun]

Hi,

Could you try it in practice? It would involve making a one-layer thick (thickness=wire diameter, right?)  "vertical" coil from enameled copper wire of say AWG#18 or #22 and secure the turns with superglue or simple electric tape.  Then bring this flat coil near to a strong Neo magnet fixed to a pendulum. Then count the number of swings and then short circuit the coil ends and watch again the number of swings.
It would be good to compare this flat coil to a normal solenoid coil too in this same pendulum test.

Regards
Gyula

[Liberty]

Hi,

Could you try it in practice? It would involve making a one-layer thick (thickness=wire diameter, right?)  "vertical" coil from enameled copper wire of say AWG#18 or #22 and secure the turns with superglue or simple electric tape.  Then bring this flat coil near to a strong Neo magnet fixed to a pendulum. Then count the number of swings and then short circuit the coil ends and watch again the number of swings.
It would be good to compare this flat coil to a normal solenoid coil too in this same pendulum test.

Regards
Gyula

Normally I could test it out, but I am in the process of moving and don't have my shop available to me at this time.  (Everything in boxes still...).  Perhaps one of you out there that have the equipment handy to do it with, could try it out.  I think that it will still have some Lentz resistance, but I think that the opposing field should be less as compared to a horizontal winding that is 'aimed' at the magnet source. 

Ideally a single layer coil would offer the least amount of opposing field, while more layers made vertically behind it, may make more Lentz resistance?? (or maybe not?).  I know that it should result in a higher voltage output with more length of coil.  More poles using a single layer Tesla spiral coil would probably keep Lentz resistance minimal and maximize voltage.  One would just have to try it and see.  It is similar to the axial alternator method used in wind powered generators, but the coils that they use are not carefully wound in a vertical spiral, but more of a oval with horizontal windings.  There should probably be a 'hole' in the center of the spiral Tesla coil for better output performance.

Liberty

[penguin hood]

The following diagram represent a transformer able to circumventing the Lentz Law according to my interpretation of: http://www3.sympatico.ca/slavek.krepelka/ttf2/fields8.htm
I guess, the function principle is the same than motor explained there.

Notes:
-Two ferromagnetic cores (blue): Primary Core and Secondary Core.
-Two windings (red): Coil I and Coil II.
-The primary winding do generate the magnetic Flux I.
-The magnetic Flux II is generated by load current circulating through the Coil II
-The gap I and gap II avoid that magnetic Flux II pass to Primary Core
-The gap III serve to prevent splitting of the magnetic flux I, so the magnetic Flux I only pass through Coil II.

[gyulasun]

Hi 'penguin hood',

I think it is an interesting and of course unusual idea but I would incourage you to assemble and test it if you can! 
Krepelka's idea on circumventing Lenz has been a topic in Naudin Yahoo group too and his idea got several "attacks".  He has not shown practical evidence of his ideas though but he 'defended' his ideas in paper.  Nevertheless, I consider it a worth-a-try idea and when later i have more free time for tinkering I will certainly test one of his arrangements.

The difference between a motor ala Krepelka and your transformer may count as a drawback or may not: only experimentation can reveal. I mean in case of the motor one magnetic circuit is able to move physically away from the other magnetic circuit (rotor-stator) and inherently reduces further the Lenz effect (but of course the main Lenz effect reduction should come from the separated two magnetic circuits by the design and this is nicely included in your transformer).

I would consider using laminations as a core (for instance using the I shape from the normal E-I shaped transformer cores) or ferrite cores salvaged from burnt line output transformers of CRT monitors or television receivers. These latter are usually C shaped cores put into a closed rectangular form. Maybe it is worth visiting a monitor repair service near to you to ask for such burnt line output transformers.

Regards
Gyula

[penguin hood]

Thanks for the reply and recommends, gyulasun.

I agree your comments about the affirmations of Slavek Krepelka.
I think that perhaps from Faraday, Tesla and who knows how many has this idea before me. Anyway I want try it before or after.

I guess that my arrangement is really two weakly coupled coils rather than a electric power transformer. Is important note that the relation for electric power transformer V1/V2 = N1/N2 = I2/I1 is not valid anymore for this case. See my equations below.
An electric power transformer is engineered searching a perfect superposition between the primary and secondary magnetic paths.
The secondary winding can demand so much energy from primary winding as magnetic energy is distributed across the whole core.
By effect of the energy transference between primary winding-core and core-secondary winding, the load current is reflected back to primary winding. 

But if the magnetic paths are differents then the secondary winding demand energy only from the core volume where the magnetic fluxes interact.
Therefore, the load current is less reflected back to primary winding, but also the primary winding is putting less energy per unit time.
In theory, not seem a good option to use in electric power.

I mean in case of the motor one magnetic circuit is able to move physically away from the other magnetic circuit (rotor-stator) and inherently reduces further the Lenz effect

Also I wonder if the magnetic rotating disc does some difference.
The magnetic rotating disc is fundamental on the "Space Power Homopolar Generator" from Paramahamsa Tewari. The better overunity proof until now, for me (if is true). Due has a prototype, experimental confirmation and a nicely electromagnetic theory to explain that it is possible to extract energy from vacuum.
But Krepelka only does reference to magnetic paths. As he wrote:"does not handle anything which is not handled by the contemporary commercial generator design open cores. It only handles the same in a more sensible manner".
It is not convincing....As you said, only experimentation can reveal.