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Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

Started by Pirate88179, July 14, 2009, 09:40:58 PM

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IotaYodi

Quote@IotaYodi, The center of the EB is empty, I didn't have any dirt in there. I wrapped the bottom portion of the copper pipe with saran wrap and did a measurement but had no voltage at all, so I'll have to fill it with dirt.
Your meter was showing .90v unless I read it wrong.
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Pirate88179

Quote from: jeanna on July 31, 2009, 09:35:18 PM
I guess since you were grounding the antenna, you were some kind of doide. The current from the wire/antenna and the meter both had to go through you to the ground?

What happened if you let go of the antenna? and you were just touching the meter?

I am thinking it could also be skin effect crossing you where the contact with the wire alone was not so good but through you it went right up to the antenna.

So, maybe not a diode but just a good connection?

jeanna

Jeanna:

I tried several different things including just holding the meter probe and no antenna.....nothing.  Just the antenna wire on the probe...nothing.  With me holding the wire, which was well stripped of insulating lacquer by this time and wrapped around the probe tip, and it climbed from .02 volts to .5 volts in about 10 seconds. 

That's half a volt from a very poor antenna.  The best way to do this from what I have read is to get a helium balloon and send the wire up a good distance.  I may wait until I can try that way.  If I get the same results, then I guess I will look into using the diodes that I bought for this experiment a while back.

It was just a very confusing (easy for that to happen to me) result that was not expected.  I really thought I would just get like .005 volts or something as my antenna wire was very short and not that high from the ground. (about 6 foot.)

Thanks for your thoughts on this.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
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jeanna

Hi everybody,

Here is another tiny video
The Stubblefield coil was set up essentially as this afternoon but in an effort to make it more ignition coil like, I connected the fe10 to the secondary while the other connection of the 5,6 stayed twisted together and connected to the wire leading to the zinc nail then on to the meter as pictured above.

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EDIT for clarity:
I am measuring this in the usual place which is between the carbon probes and the zinc probes.
What I have added is a stubblefield coil to see if it will act as an antenna.
It seems to me that it does.
However the DMM today was 1.02v which is a little higher than usual but not a lot.
I will keep this antenna on for a while if it is all right with everyone.
I realize this makes my set-up very different from the usual, but it seems more sensitive to me, so I like it.

In fairness to this project, I will get more speaker wire and make a normal copper and zinc pair so my results are in line with normal set-up.
My apologies for this diversion.
end edit.
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I believe the mv went from 50 to 69 or maybe they were already 69mv There was no change in frequency, but there might have been some rise in mvolts.
The movement of the wave is deliberate and rhythmical.

Have a look.

188k avi format
69mV peak to peak.

jeanna

electricme

@All,

I have just had a PM from Weri812 which makes very interresting reading.

I need to thank Weri for bringing this to my attention, thanks Weri.

It seems someone else has done what I have done before and it is documented.

I am not the originator of the Series Earth battery, although I wish I was lol.

But I'm glad I got to build this and it does work and works well, but what I am curious about is this.

I and others here, well back on Bill Joule thief thread, and I think on the Stubblefield threads, how come no one has been able to make a series earth battery before now.
I have tried several times with different metals (as others have done) and did not succeed, until now.

I have also searched the net (as others no doubt have done) without any obvious answer of a series earth battery, only some hints to it's existence, which made me even more determined.

I have mentioned this in the past to several people who know me, also I have read where others have done their own research and came up with the notion it couldn't be done.

I also have made previous experiments with series earth rods, and got nowhere at all, but I thought their must be a easy solution.

So what happened? well I suppose it is a bit like Tesla's work and Stubblefields work, the methods were lost or deeply buried, then others came along and read about this or that, they researched and they managed to figure out what to do, and did it.

So I can't make any claim for being the first to make a series cell power unit or cell from the ground, but, I'm glad I made a series EER system.

Here is the link Weri812 sent to me, and I went there and checked, and sure enough, in full colour is a system of series earth cells.

  http://www.4shared.com/file/92366887/ad3b1eb6/Free_Energy_-_Free_electricity_From_The_Earth.html

I also read deeper and can see an article on a capacitor setup in the earth, is this related to Mica Capacitor energy that Tesla managed to do.
This looks very interresting, also.

My own method is very similar to theirs, I have used electrical tape.
They have used paint and a plastic cup or a plastic sheet or something like this.

I also have used one different metal in my first successful series experiment, which I don't see there, which reverses the polarity configuration.
   
So why didn't all my series experiments to make a series battery work?

It's a bit like this, if you think of the earth energy flowing around in a sea like manner, then think about a 12v car battery, If you pull all the internals out of the car battery, still connected together, and put this same assembly into another open box/container, without the barrier that makes up the individual cells, whats going to happen?
The whole thing has just become just one huge big cell.
The energy is Null-ed Out.

So it stood to reason, at least to me anyway, to insulate each individual cell by insulating it with electrical tape. Poking the tape up inside the copper cell fixes the sharp edge at the bottom of the tube, (and deals with any water when it rains) so it wont damage the tape as you put the cell in the earth.

Why did I use a Zinc nail, well its the easiest to get hold of, and you buy them in packets, so there is no cutting from a big long length, plus others here had used Zinc roofing nails so since I hadn't used zinc before, why not try it?

Now I see by Bills post today on his JT site, of a metal table, that Gold has the best recommendation, ha ha, too ex pensieve for this kid.


So that's how I did it, it was a simple fix to a problem that held back everyone.

It worked, but I am happy that Weri did bring this to my attention, now, is there anyone out there who has any more info of any pre - existing series earth batteries.

jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

electricme

@Bill

I have noticed this effect with the 8" disk EB setup I made about 3-4 months ago, this is the one I took all the photos of with the cro.

I added a 8meter long aerial to it, just for something to d (and I was courious lol) and I found, if it touch the bridge diode, the LED accross the diode bridge go on.


Sooo get a LED, and touch its leg against the copper wire, have the DMM connected in parallel with it, then with you other hand, raise it higher, you should see the voltage go up, and the LED glowing.

jim

Quote from: Pirate88179 on July 31, 2009, 09:20:09 PM
I just tried a quick and dirty experiment just for the heck of it.  I strung about 20 feet of fine copper wire I salvaged from a monitor I took apart a while back from a tree in my front yard down to my EER (Earth Energy Receiver) set-up.  First, I tried it with the carbon rods and got hardly anything...then I hooked it to my meter and the mag. block.

Well here is the interesting thing I do not understand.  I also got almost nothing here as well but, since I had quickly burned off the insulation on the wire (it was like mag wire) I thought it might not be a clean connection so I reached over to hold it on the probe with my fingers.  As soon as I did...the DMM started climbing!!  In about 10 seconds it was up to 1/2 a volt. (.5 volt)  As soon as I removed my finger, it dropped down to almost nothing again.  I still thought it was a bad connection so I cleaned up the wire end better and still....same thing unless I held it, only then would it build up the volts.

I wonder if it is because anywhere I have read about the antenna systems with an earth ground set-up, they always used diodes, germanium diodes to be exact.  I happen to have about 20 of those here.  I wonder if my body was acting as a diode in the circuit somehow?

Most of the set-ups I have seen used about 100 feet of antenna (mag) wire so I did not expect much on this try anyway.  I will make a video of this if I get the time but, anyone have any theories as to why this might be?

Bill
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.