Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

[Pirate88179]

Cosmic:

Nice post.  I would offer you one word of caution about eating plants (if they are indeed the edible kind) where you have had a galvanic reaction going on in the soil.  The zinc will be stripped from the screws and may (I am not a chemist) create some toxic by-product.

Jeanna is a biologist and knows world's more about chemistry than I ever will...maybe she can add something to this warning.

Back in the beginning of the original EB topic, Stefan (Forum owner and moderator) warned us about the effects of copper degrading in the ground due to galvanic reactions.

I agree about the sensor part of your post which is the reason Jim wanted to start this topic.  Maybe, we can see earthquakes or volcanic eruptions before they start, or at least see the effects on our systems when they do occur.  I really think that we will be able to "see" a long way away.  What we see on our scopes may not be local.  Who knows how far away those spike originate?  Like a wave on the ocean that hits our shore began thousands of miles away.

Bill

[Pirate88179]

i found a used scope, surplus from a university that recently upgraded its' equipment.

should be here in next week sometime and i'll be able to assist more in the data collection process.

i have temporarily removed my JT circuit from the earth battery, to test my NS coil.
which seems to be powering it nicely (at least when the NS is freshly soaked with water)

my EB has over 100 probes now on the negative side, but the current seems to have capped out between 8-12 ma.
fluxuates from day to day...   
BUT,  the NS coil produces the same power with far less components - so thats where my JT sits for now.

Smokey:

Nice job on finding the surplus scope. (I got mine from Ebay)  Now you will really have some fun with this.  I hope you post your waveforms and list your location and we can add that to the database.  I'll bet you see spikes as well, and other weird stuff.  I look forward to seeing your shots.  Nice job.

Bill

[sm0ky2]

i had some thoughts about those spikes, after watching Bill's video and slowing it down to a slow rate.

im talking about the 6-7 seconds where he actually seperated the triphase and you can clearly see all three.

they are not "exactly" 120-degrees out of phase. and may in fact differ very slightly in frequency. this could occasionally cause constructive interference with one another.

i wish i had more footage of that to examine. but it seems most of the other recorded scope videos show the jumbled mess the 3 waves create together. i would add some advice on how to best seperate them like that again, but until i have my scope here, i wouldnt have a clue.

i think Bill actually says what hes doing in the video when this occurs, but that was like 20 pages ago ... would have to search to find it again, as i didnt save the videos after i messed with them.

its possible that when the waves cross at their peaks, a spike occurs. which should be happening at distinct intervals, though when you have 3 off-set waveforms, these intervals might appear to be random, when in fact its multiple pattern occuring.

[sm0ky2]

my limited knowledge of chemistry ( which sits somewhere between advanced rocketry and nuclear physics) tells me that the galvonic deposits in the soil, if any, would be an inert compound of zinc oxide and zinc phosphate.

neither of which are harmfull if eaten, and if i remember correctly, both of these are intentionally inserted into commercial foods and dental products.

[jeanna]

Wouldn't I see the spikes every day then?
The day that I was out there for 1 1.2 hours I did not see one of these. I think that was the day after I saw the first spikes.
My best guess is distant lightning. Not too distant. The sky on both spike days had turned grey.

But, I live a mile away from a military fort and to my mind that is the next best guess after distant lightning.

And, that is only because the bombs are clearly audible when they are being dropped and there was no sound from the fort except copters. ugh!

But, I will continue to report them when they occur.
I think this is one of the purposes of this datalogging, isn't it?

hmm,
I might have made a video that first day. I will look.

jeanna