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Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts

Started by xenomorphlabs, July 25, 2009, 08:00:09 PM

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Yucca

@peterea,
Cool to see you thinking of working with this, I think this device may have alot to do with the TPU, making an active antenna, give lots and receive a little more, making a massive virtual antenna from a modestly sized device. Maybe the "kick" refers to the excess received back after a large excitation?

@flathunter
I don't know squat about poynting flow thrusters at the moment, you've given me something to read about tonight ;)

eidt:
i´ve made a lifter before, but never a PFT, I will try quickly with an old CD case and some adhesive alu tape tomorrow, crank it up to just below arcover. lifters tend to have air dialectric, PFT has integrated dialectric so maybe more efficient in space? I should also try and build the rest of my first Smith like device lol.

flathunter

Great to hear others are taking an interest in the PFT! (poynting flow thruster). You could easily power it with your flyback power supply Yucca. It seems to work on very few amps, but lots of volts.  And its far easier than building a lifter in my opinion.  I'm discussing the PFT at the moment on this website with another guy who has been in contact with Dr Turtur.  Dr Turtur is a German scientist who claims to have proven beyond all doubt that vacuum energy can be converted into mechanical energy, and he does his best to prove that it certainly isnt ion wind - decide for yourself here

http://philica.com/display_article.php?article_id=155.

we're discussing it here

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7723.msg197991#new

I've had some terrible progress with replicating your power supply - i blew another transistor today.  I think i'll have to wait till i get an order in for the 13005 trannies.  I'm still just trying without the circuit, just hooking the tranny between the battery and flyback, cos thats how i got the 1cm spark - and i havent been able to get to where I was on my first ever attempt - electronics can be sooooo irritating!

So, after some frustrating attempts and seeing that Peter, yourself, and Vincent on the other thread were all interested in the PFT, i decided to make a couple of vids with my PFT in action.  You can see them here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6bSjSnMMo0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smSTEkezHuQ

I'll try and keep all other references to the PFT on the other thread about Dr Turtur as I dont think its very relevant to Don Smith.  I'll save this thread for any more power supply reps, and wireless power fun, as I think they are far more relevant to Don Smith.  After all, when i look at some of Dons machines, they just look like tesla coils surrounded by receiver coils, with HV bridges converting the AC back to DC - though i'm sure they must be more complex than that, otherwise OU would be too easy!

PS.  I think you're right about testing the PFT in vacuum, and its exactly what XaeroVincent suggested on the other thread.

PPS. - great pool heater.  I'm gonna show my old man - hes a plumber and often installs central heating systems.

 

xenomorphlabs

QuoteAfter all, when i look at some of Dons machines, they just look like tesla coils surrounded by receiver coils, with HV bridges converting the AC back to DC - though i'm sure they must be more complex than that, otherwise OU would be too easy!

You are absolutely right there.
Don Smith never reveals the whole picture. His table device is incomplete (even if it`s just missing "only" the battery and the output transformer) and his other schematics never contain all of the components and contradict his descriptions partially.
I am still asking myself how he manages to achieve a resonant circuit with DC caps without destroying them (apart from the fact that the caps in his table device are only rated for 4000 VDC and he states that the NST delivers 9kV AC ?!?!?)
Maybe the road to replicating his devices is to not stick to his schematics but creating your own circuit that makes at least sense to yourself hehe.

Paul-R

It is important to remember that he has several technologies which
work in different ways.

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: Paul-R on August 21, 2009, 10:47:23 AM
It is important to remember that he has several technologies which
work in different ways.

So?
Sure they work in different ways, but the concrete exact principle remains veiled and
the selection of components at least appears to be odd. And that`s what would be nice to be discussed here, so we all have some food for thought on component choice.

I have read ALL available Smith papers and know all the theory that`s why i say
the concrete exact principle as to where and HOW exactly the energy gain is concretely established.
Just stating that the high amperage causing electron flow come through the earth ground does not explain under what exact conditions they would start doing that except for simply saying it would occur at HF and resonance. There is something more to it than what is presented by Smith (for understandable reasons).
And equations mean nothing as long as they remain theory.

Like Flathunter said, if any transformer that simply runs at resonance would always yield insane KW of power, then that whole thing would be easy to tackle.
However there is many peeps out there who think they have sussed it out. If they would be able to show me a working replication, i would start to take them serious.