Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit

[forest]

well, I have been thinking about the Hairpin now for some time. I see the analogy to a laser. You create a standing wave in the resonator and out comes a different form of energy. I have seen other demonstrations where they lit a 120 V/100W halogen bulb on a hair thin wire across the room with the hairpin. Is this just RF? for the filament to glow this bright you need AMPS.
The hairpin is different from the lecher line. This is usually demonstrated by using semiconductors or a small solid state transmitter as the input. Tesla used the stuff available to him at the time- spark gaps and " brute force". A spark gap is a broad band emitter. the fact that the spark intensifies shows that the energy is reflected in the hairpin circuit and back thru the spark gap. Let me make the connection to Hector torrez (the rotoverter guy) who says that Radiant is RF - created in a resonator with a standing wave where voltage and current are out of phase. this is the effect happening in the hairpin- you get voltage and current nodes - so far nothing exotic- but what is the nature of the energy in these nodes? can there be voltage without current or just current without voltage? what will happen when one applies this energy to a water cell for instance?
I think the hairpin is  probably the easiest way to create larger amounts of RE. Correct me if I'm wrong- I'm just a layman, but I'd like to know more about this.
BTW: I work in a theater where we use Thyristor dimmers. Years ago we had problems when we connected only a small load to the dimmer the thyristor would burn out. could this because the leads make up a transmission line, the energy gets reflected back into the circuit instead of being used at the end of the line. You have caps and a choke coil as parts of the dimmer, and the way the dimmer works is to turn off the power at a certain point and then turn it on again. This makes for sharp edges of the waveform and a lot of harmonics....so all the ingredients are there...why should a 2 kilowatt thyristor with TWO fuses in both lines burn out when the load is not strong enough??

Two questions:
1. Were those problems persistent with that small load of random ?
2. How did you eliminate those problems ?

[sparks]

       Voltage is not the same thing as charge seperation.  Charge seperation induces currents which when resisted gives rise to voltage.  An electrical current moves through space between poles.  It is relavent to other such currents flowing through space.  This is cold current.  It is the current that is flowing between nodes and antinodes of a standing wave.
It is the current that is flowing in a concentrated or focused stream when you touch a door knob.  It was flowing when you were across the room from the doornob also.  You didnt feel it because it was flowing out of you in all directions towards other charge poles.  When you moved towards that door knob the flow became focused or concentrated between that one scource of radiant energy.  If you look at yourself with the proper lenses we have an aura about us.  This shows the radiant energy flowing about our mass which forms a resistance to this radiant energy and a coronal discharge from every bit of mass that resists this current.  Hot current is when we move charged mass cold current is always there for the taking.

[ramset]

Sparks
Listening to you a long time.

I used to think,

Transmit> receive> Use

Starting to think it will be.

Receive> Use

Chet

PS
Actually think this is how its supposed to be.

PPS
On a side note
How come the OOONNLY place I can go and see a one hundred year old device that is still considered "state of the art"
Is The Niagara power plant??
My freakin cell phone is obsolete before I dial it!!

[albert]

Let me reply to the questions about our dimmer problems.
the effect came up repeatedly. We solved the problem by attaching 60 W lights in parallel to the channels we use for practical lighting on the stage. Those might be used with small loads. With the other channels we had no problems.

Back to the Hairpin circuit: No one has been able to explain to me so far what is happening in the current or voltage node of the hairpin circuit. We know the current and voltage are out of phase. How this can make a quartz light burn brightly without any amps going thru the wires is still a mystery to me. Sorry your answer has put up more questions for me.

[forest]

Let me reply to the questions about our dimmer problems.
the effect came up repeatedly. We solved the problem by attaching 60 W lights in parallel to the channels we use for practical lighting on the stage. Those might be used with small loads. With the other channels we had no problems.

Back to the Hairpin circuit: No one has been able to explain to me so far what is happening in the current or voltage node of the hairpin circuit. We know the current and voltage are out of phase. How this can make a quartz light burn brightly without any amps going thru the wires is still a mystery to me. Sorry your answer has put up more questions for me.

My thought is that your thyristor circuit was working on resonant condition and that was the resonance exactly which Tesla found. Power was accumulated on each step so it goes beyond thyristor capabilities and burned them. Bulbs probably changed resistance of circuit and resonant frequency changed.
It's a "blind man guess" however ;-)

Anyway ,EVERY anomaly is VERY important to analyse ! That is the source of knowledge.If you can find a circuit of that dimmer I'm sure we all would learn something.