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New invention of motion less generation of electric power

Started by powercat, August 26, 2009, 08:52:05 AM

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powercat

@@ Lucian Stefan
can you please be more accurate and specific with the information you post

can you only post information related to this thread and ideally in English.
If you read through this thread you would have noticed the inventor Ali  has said that he uses no coils in his invention.
Please only post relevant information to this thread

cat
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

Lucian Stefan

Hi, Cat

the coils are not moving parts ; a device with coils is also "motionless"...

I hope.

powercat

Hi Lucian Stefan
Ali said his invention has no coils, moving or not moving ,he said no coils

I am only trying to keep this thread on topic.
Anyway it is looking like your information is going down well on another thread
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8073.msg202494;topicseen#msg202494

so please if you can figure out how Ali's device works let us know your thoughts  ;)

cat
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

powercat

Quote from: gyulasun on September 27, 2009, 05:40:14 AM
hi cat,

From my part, no I am not saying that. I don't know yet how Ali's device works.

I think Lucian Stefan just wanted to show what HE thinks to be THE  motionless electric generator, that is all. I chimed in only to correct the mistake in the url link Lee showed.
Here is a link on learning some more on the Meyer (French inventor) device:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4333.0

rgds, Gyula

EDIT: Google cannot translate text which is included in a picture embedded in a html or similar web page, this is the reason.
However if you look at the Meyer patent at the European Patent Office, then there is a free machine translation service there.  See this link leading to the Description part of the FR2680613 patent text:
http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=FR&NR=2680613A1&KC=A1&FT=D&date=19930226&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP  and if you click on the yellow icon  'Translate this text' , then you will receive the computer translation English text from the French one in a newly opening page.  Similarly, other French patents involved here can also be translated this way.

Thank's Gyula
Having read the translation  my understanding of it still leaves a lot to be desired :P

It has been a while since we heard from Ali, I hope all is good with him 

cat
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

Lucian Stefan

I have seen the video of Ali- in the first post made by Cat.

Now I have to see the scheme "so I can pronounce a verdict".
His device has two supply cables- one (white cable) which supply the panel with lamps, and one which goes under the table in the left side. The device has three capacitors and electric resistance. Ali pretend that the device generates a supplement of energy...
Well, the energy is not an abstract thing- there are several forms of energy. First of all- we have to determine THE SOURCE and THE FORM OF ENERGY. The so-called "O.U. devices" are in most cases collectors of free energy,- from vacuum, from atmosphere (the free electric charges), from soil and atmosphere, from the electric charges which drives in the molecular structure of the extraction material, etc, etc. I don't see what could be the supplementary SOURCE in case of Ali.
I see a capacitors device conected through two cables, which apparently make a supplement of power in the circuit. I don't like how the scene was filmed, the camera operator of shooting avoiding to show all the scene from appropriate distance, not only the table surface at the same angle. The circuits with capacitors could make impulses of voltage, but for supplementary power IT NEED TO BE a supplementary source, doesn't matter what kind of source- the vacuum, the cosmic radiation, the solar wind, the free electric charges from air and soil, the "maverick" electrons inside the molecules, etc. Moreover, Ali doesn't describe clear the circuit he used- so, we cannot know if this device has or not coils; if it has electric resistences or fuses, to be sure it has windings (coils).
I post the informations about Michel Meyer because his device is not a fake, it is explained scientifically and could give at output 30-40 more power than it consumes. The Meyer converter uses the property of atoms to be oscillating systems, the electrons (orbitals) being the oscillating parts of atom. Through resonance phenomenon, the atoms eliberates electrons- so it appears a supplementary flow of electrons and hence additional power. The principle was been tested by another independent persons in another countries, including Romania.

I did only some remarks on the film shown by Ali - I'm waiting the scheme to see the work principle and to determine THE SOURCE of additional energy.