Bedini SSG - self sustaining

[WilbyInebriated]

I agree, although I don't like suppressing anyone.

One important point in users YeaRight previous post is "Why the motor
form of the SGS?" The Answer is: it is better to have energy generated
in the form of a "unit" that provides energy gain; that is
have some  energy-out = fixed-gain times energy-in (as a control signal);
then it is to have energy invested in a fixed form that can go out of control
all at once.

Think of a large tank of distilled petroleum and a lit cigarette,
or dissolving 5 pounds of pure plutonium into a plastic bucket of nitric acid
and 5 pounds into another bucket and then pouring them together.
Or accidentally running a tanker truck filled with butane into
expressway retaining wall at 70Mph...I think you get the picture.

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YeaRight ask; "Why not use capacitors rather than batteries?";
Fausto said it; Where the actual gain is vested in
unkown structures in a Bedini machine although
I have suggested I think there are four places where
extra energy could be coming in. Battery chemistry would probably
play roles in these, although electrolytic capacitors (contains water)
may see these too. Other type of capacitors like oil filled or tantalum
should not see some of these.

:S:MarkSCoffman

i have created a thread just for yeahright's question. hopefully, if they are not trolls, he along with others like solinear, etc. will discuss it there instead of disrupting plengo's fine work here.

[plengo]

@WilbyInebriated

thank you! I appreciate your help. I am just tired of reading through 200 pages of TPUs, Dr. Stifflers (I love his work) and  Mylow and so on to just get 10% of usefull stuff all the rest is non-sence flamming. So I am definitely removing ALL historical flaming outside of this threads intention with no mercy! Oh boy that makes me feel good! 

@All,

some updates: Last night running more tests my board is cooked (the one that Groundloop sent me). Oh boy i love that board. It is impressively powerful. So, I am building a new protoboard with the exact same circuit plus a few more ports and if it works well I will make it into a copper board with replaceable transistors pins.

That also raises the questions of what I am doing wrong to burn the transistors and the simple answer is the way I am connecting the batteries and the caps. I am trying to understand and engineer why the batteries charge when flipping to the caps in this particular configuration of mine (number 4 or previous posts) where in some of the connections the battery is connecting to literally nothing (just the diode that was coming out from the SSG without the SSG).

I think that is one factor why the battery is charging plus what I think it is also the secret concerning the shorting of the battery momentarily. Studying Gotluc's forum that I also mention previously I can clearly see kind of how my batteries are charging without understanding why. I know some of the arguments presented there claims that the electrostatics and earth virtual grounds are the reason but I just dont buy that (and since I am not an EE I guess I can blindly believe in my experiments more than my lack of better theory).

I think my experiments are very similiar to what Gotluc is doing and since I am running this at 50khz I can see why my battery charges very well.

I really wished some people would try this and give more input about this phenomena and ways to improve on it and engineer it to scale up. Or it is just me?

Now, it is important to have a good visual feedback when things are "switching" because when the transistor fries one will not noticed but only via the battery stopping to charge which could take a day lost of tests.

Fausto

[Groundloop]

Fausto,

If you burn the switch transistors a lot, then try this add on.

The IRF510 should be a good choice in your setup. Can take
high voltage (100volt) and some 5,6Amp at best. But you can
use whatever N-Type HEXFET you have. Just make sure the
transistor can handle you voltages (including "spikes") and the
current you need when switching.

Groundloop.

[plengo]

@Groundloop,

thanks. I will try that.

[plengo]

@Groundloop,

I was thinking about having that design change you proposed to another level. I want to have an equivalent to a SPDP (single pole double throw) switch and my questions is: Would this design of mine work?

Fausto.