Bedini SSG - self sustaining

[plengo]

@Mags,

that is amazing. It reminds a lot of "Adams Motor" when I was playing with it. Your second coil is to the exact spec of the Adams coil being around 10 ohm. I think you just found the secret from Adams motor concerning the positioning of the second reed switch for the correct moment to when pulse the second coil.

Adams claims that the second coil should be around 15 degrees from the driving coil to make it happen. I wonder if you could try that or measure the angle among your coils and reeds.

Can you make a better schematics of how this is all connected? I am willing to replicate your experiment.

[Magluvin]

Hey Plengo
Ill draw it up this evening.

Real quick to say,  From the pos. of the bat to the reed, reed to the coil, coil to the neg of bat.  The anode of the diode to the reed side of the coil, cathode to the cap, the other side of the cap to the other side of the coil.
The second stage is the same and it uses the first stage cap as its battery or input.
Get the first stage going as fast as possible with reed setting, the adjust the second reed for highest output, both reed to the same rotor of course.
Ill be back later with a drawing.
The first stage cap should be at about 10 times the bat when running.
In my vid I made a mistake measuring the first cap. The first and second stage caps were not common gnd. So when the full setup is running, the first cap was actually about 1v seemingly solid. Yet its enough to provide the second stage very well.
From what I see, the way I have the diode, if you reverse it in the first stage, you will get high volts to the cap. But this way, it tends to put the coil and diode/cap together when the reed closes, allowing bat to flow to the coil and cap, then releases and give about 10 times the bat volts and it pumps that cap hard. With the diode reversed to only capture bemf, it takes a bit of running to get to that high voltage into a larger cap due to virtually no current capability.
Another thing, the .9 ohm coil, about 1 ohm, on the second stage loves that first cap. If I used that coil on the first stage the battery would really suffer. It seems the lower the ohms, down to 1ohm that I have tried so far, puts out more volts than a large fine wire coil. 
Its a unique situation and I think it needs some study.

Hope that was helpful for now. I know how it is to wait for real info. =]

Magluvin

[Magluvin]

Also make note of the polarity of the 25v, or so, on the first cap to orient your input to the second stage. The diode side of the cap should be the neg.

Magluvin

edited to correct the word "note"  =]

[mscoffman]

Honestly I cant say no additional load on the rotor drive and bat. , there is a bit, But the 2nd stage coil Im running now is .9 ohm, a big audio filter coil. Im getting 270v on the secondary output. If I used it as a drive coil, my battery would be cooking.
Ill do a vid later with the big coil.

Mags

Yeah, you know in the range of 250V pulses you start getting into the area of "free
electron machines", you start attracting free electrons from the environment. I was
going to suggest this for plengo to look at, eventually, if he could not get overunity
by other means, which he should still try. Ultimately, it maybe possible to step voltage
pulses up very high, with like an automobile ignition coil (30-40KV range). The problem
is downconverting these HV output pulses efficiently. I think I know how to do this.

Think about the guy who has his neon-sign transformer (110VAC->8KVAC)
and says that the name-plate shows the transformer's operation is overunuity.
This is why.

The thing is, plengo may be able to make a Tesla Switch work (26V pulses)
overunity by careful control. This can't be free electrons at that level. So
you can tell I am very hopeful that there will be some way found to do this.
And then we use the microcontroller to document it. I don't trust other peoples
measurements, but I do trust Plengo.

All these things have other invocations (device units) historically claimed
to be overunity. I don't want to mess up the thread discussing them - until
they become applicable...So lets keep first-things-first. No question this thread is
exciting as heck to me.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[Magluvin]

Hey MS
Speaking of free electrons, I had seen a bedini circuit with a chassis or an earth gnd. I wonder if it was for that purpose.
Im looking at this in a different way than free or extra electrons added.
The way I see to charge a cap is to move the electrons from one side to the other as fast as possible. Adding more electrons to the cap than it already contains would kind of make it one sided.
In my setup, the diode setup as I have it, is reverse of what most would consider, only because it looks like the reed is just sending bat power to the cap via the reed. In a circuit drawing, showing the reed open could confuse what is happening. The reed dumps bat power into the coil/diode/cap at once, and when it releases, the coil forces its spring load into the cap on the side the doesnt have the diode, forcing a compression at the diode wall. It may not be a super high voltage spike, but its got some punch to load that cap hard.
Looking at the circuit, this may not be what you first conceive.
I was messing with it for a while trying to figure out why my output was only 10 times the input and not over 100v or so. But I think Im getting a grip on the function. I have visions. =]

Magluvin