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Share your coil designs

Started by onthecuttingedge2005, October 06, 2009, 02:40:56 PM

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gravityblock

Here's another way to wind a coil where you don't have to come back to the other end for the next layer.  This allows the current to flow through the coil in one direction only, instead of back and forth between the ends of the coil.

It's basically many flat coils on the same core all connected together.  Start from one end of the coil and wind the wire CW from the ID to the OD.  Once you reach the OD, then bring the wire back to the ID and wind CW to the OD and repeat until you're at the other end of the coil.  Then make another coil wrapped CCW or CW depending on how they will be used and hook them in series.

The two coils should operate similar to a permanent magnet holder (PMH) when it's energized.  With a variable resistor hooked to the coils, we can control the strength of the coils at any given time.  If one stator coil has a south pole and a magnet approaches it with a south pole, the magnet will repel away from the stator coil due to like poles repelling each other.  All we do is raise the resistance in the stator coil to dull it's south pole field where the magnet will be attracted to the core of the coil.

Once the rotor magnet and stator coil are in yaw or aligned with each other, then we can lower the resistance of the coils to create a strong south pole in the coil where it will repel the magnet away from the stator.  It can operate using the same principals of the Adams motor, but now we have a permanent electromagnet that can be controlled without needing a continuous power supply to it.  We may need to have a keeper and a "U" shaped core with a coil on each leg of the "U" to have the PMH affect. 

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

stevensrd1

How about using a magnetic wire for a coil. Have you tried sticking a magnet to just plain coil wire,,it wont stick. But what if a coil was made with a magnetic wire,,meaning the wire would stick to a magnet. The perhaps if it was used as a pickup of electricity as say a magnet passed by it,,the coil would not even need an iron metal rod inserted into it as coil pickups have. The coil itself would be its own iron insert.

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: stevensrd1 on September 23, 2010, 09:34:06 PM
How about using a magnetic wire for a coil. Have you tried sticking a magnet to just plain coil wire,,it wont stick. But what if a coil was made with a magnetic wire,,meaning the wire would stick to a magnet. The perhaps if it was used as a pickup of electricity as say a magnet passed by it,,the coil would not even need an iron metal rod inserted into it as coil pickups have. The coil itself would be its own iron insert.
This is the first one I found:
(It's a coil---antenna---that's a wire as well)

http://www.google.com/patents?id=uNt4AAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=coil+electromagnet+antenna&as_drrb_ap=q&as_minm_ap=0&as_miny_ap=&as_maxm_ap=0&as_maxy_ap=&as_drrb_is=b&as_minm_is=1&as_miny_is=1880&as_maxm_is=1&as_maxy_is=1940&num=100&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false

I started a thread here...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7832.0

...and what you're looking for may be there.  There was a patent that was an antenna as a steel wire coiled into a circle, and then had a copper secondary wound over it to transmit signals.  It's there in the thread or at:

http://www.google.com/advanced_patent_search

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: stevensrd1 on September 23, 2010, 09:34:06 PM
How about using a magnetic wire for a coil. Have you tried sticking a magnet to just plain coil wire,,it wont stick. But what if a coil was made with a magnetic wire,,meaning the wire would stick to a magnet. The perhaps if it was used as a pickup of electricity as say a magnet passed by it,,the coil would not even need an iron metal rod inserted into it as coil pickups have. The coil itself would be its own iron insert.

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on September 23, 2010, 10:06:24 PM
This is the first one I found:
(It's a coil---antenna---that's a wire as well)

http://www.google.com/patents?id=uNt4AAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=coil+electromagnet+antenna&as_drrb_ap=q&as_minm_ap=0&as_miny_ap=&as_maxm_ap=0&as_maxy_ap=&as_drrb_is=b&as_minm_is=1&as_miny_is=1880&as_maxm_is=1&as_maxy_is=1940&num=100&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false

I started a thread here...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7832.0

...and what you're looking for may be there.  There was a patent that was an antenna as a steel wire coiled into a circle, and then had a copper secondary wound over it to transmit signals.  It's there in the thread or at:

http://www.google.com/advanced_patent_search
I finally stumbled onto the precise patent I was thinking of:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=fkdbAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false

As I said, a transformer having a wound coil for a core.

REEDIT:
Here's another:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=ESJgAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=2412345&as_drrb_ap=q&as_minm_ap=0&as_miny_ap=&as_maxm_ap=0&as_maxy_ap=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&num=10&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

stevensrd1

@big_m
What I meant was the actual wire that is used to make the coil, what if that wire was made out of a metal, that a magnet would stick to. For example like coils used in magnetic energy generators, that have a metal core in them, with wire wrapped around them. But if the wire itself was made of a metal, that a magnet would stick to, then no need for a metal core, as the coil itself would act as the metal core. Would this enhance electrical generation, guess one would have to try it to see.