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Understanding electricity in the TPU.

Started by wattsup, October 18, 2009, 12:28:42 PM

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sparks

My concept is this.  In any system that shows thermal radiation we know that there are atoms in motion.  These neutral atoms and or molecules are pretty much immune to electrical polarization of space.  They are not immune to photons of highfrequency or short wavelength.  These high frequency waves are able to penetrate the field established between the electron shell or bubble surface if you will and the neucleus.  They pop the bubble and you have a free electron.  The free electron will now have the thermal energy of the host atom plus be responsive to an electrical field.  (an electrical field caused by the amassing of charged particles is a gradiant field of the scaler electrical field)   The ionizing energy doe not come for free.  But the ionizing energy can be less than the thermal electron energy gained.  Sm was messing with tubes his whole life.  Look at what happens in a tube.  We heat atoms in the filament until it starts to radiate photon energy.  A certain percentage of the atomic collisions involved in the heating of the atoms in the filament are of high enough an impact to create high energy photons.  These photons ionize atoms on the skin of the filament where the percentage is highest that an electron will leave the mass of the filament.  The work force to create the free electrons is greatly reduced when the filament is grounded.  The workforce is really very little if the filament is doped with radioactive elements because they are transmitting ionizing frequencies all ready.  Thats why they call it radioactive.  So you now know Moray's trick.  The rest is just a matter of geometry and making sure a space charge doesnt build up in the tube  that will messup the accelerating field.  Extremely high frequency and voltage can result in the production of the ionizing energy or photon input.  A second frequency of longer duty cycle to create the dipole field can run around in the same circuit.  The electron current from cathode to anode pickedup via a current transformer wrapped around the tube.  The pulsed tube will of course produce ac as the electrons slow then collapse back into the cathode.    I believe that Tesla was using this scheme but was using oxygen and nitrogen in the spark gaps and latter gas filled rectifier tubes.  Leedskalin had tubes wrapped with coils around them.  Another interesting thing is that water vapor contains some unstable isotopes and lately it has been found that em stimulation of radioactive isotopes can alter the 1/2 lives of these forms of matter drastically.  In a spark gap you have it all. I've done this open air and things start to get cold all around the anode.  The electric field can be constructed so that the thermal energy goes in current comes out.  The pulsation of the ionizing energy input also shows up in the accelerator current.  This allows the coil wrapped around the tube to inductively couple to the electron flow inside the tube or measure the current flow like a current transformer.  The pulsed tube will produce ac as the electrons flow first towards the anode then collapse back into the cathode.
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sparks

   I believe Tesla was throwing up some really exciting voltages and frequencies and increasing the power levels by using resonance until his towers became huge xray transmitters.  As the plasma field produced by the tower grew more and more nitrogen and air became ionized and the plasma currents were directly driven from the tower.  This plasma then becoming a growing sphere of conductive matter to carry the ionizing frequency further and further from the tower.
People reported a blue purple light glowing about the tower tops.  Thats what happens when electrons move faster than the speed of light.  The light gets bounced around and refracted while the electrons are mucho vectored accelerated.  I believe SM created a big old vacuum tube kinda thing but used the collector windings as cathode and anode with the current sensing coil wrapped around the whole deal.  Then even some bailing wire or aluminum to create a magnetic field to enhance the direction of electron acceleration so as to produce a sensible current.  The production of an ionizing frequency based on what your "filament" is made of aka kicks and the imposition of an electrical field and the current observer all rolled up into a table top thermal to electrical converter. 
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Hi Giantkiller, Wattsup, Sparks and all, have been following this thread & hope it's ok to join this discussion to add a couple of points.
Was reading the posts also from Kames & his quotes above,which seem's very relevant to TPU.
Just want to say...
In older analog scopes delay lines are used to delay a pulse reaching the viewing screen (Y axis). This is so that the timebase trace has a chance to start running on the X axis before the pulse reaches the screen. Otherwise we can't see the initial rise or leading edge of the pulse.

The scope delay lines (also known as slow wave structures) are always air cored in my experience. Like a long plastic hollow straight drinking straw with a few turns (10 or 20) identical coils wound at spaced intervals along the rod.

So I think the TPU might be a delay line only in a circle turned back on itself toroidal fashion. If the toroid contained continuous magnetic material in it's core, the fast changing leading and lagging edges of the pulse would be slowed down distorting it.

The height or amplitude and rate of change of the pulse needs to be preserved in order to get maximum dV/dT for induction purposes in the TPU.

Delay lines are rated in microseconds of delay.

An initial pulse can travel around a delay line relatively undistorted and un attenuated.  A pulse can be induced into any or many of the individual coils on the line itself.

Only other thing I wanted to add was..... just as a capacitor can store  energy (current) charge so can an inductor be used to store energy.
To do it with a capacitor we charge it up & leave the leads open circuited till we need the charge.
With the inductor we charge it up and short the leads together till we need the charge.
If the magnetic field around the inductor tries to collapse back in..... the resultant current (& it's back EMF field) from the shorted leads opposes any change or collapse.
If we had a charged up shorted inductor and someone placed a magnet against it.... possibly it might saturate the inductor causing the inductor to lose most of it's inductance making it emit a pulse of energy. All this without disconnecting it's shorted leads! Energy can be added or subtracted inductively.

If so a TPU operation could basically be a circular delay line with several shorted out coils at various positions around it's circumference?

How this grows to become a huge amount of energy etc I don't know, just adding the above to help if I can.



Gerry.

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Gerry

This is all very old knowledge we have to digg and clean and explain using today concepts.
What was Edison Etheric force ? Was that really induction from solenoid ? Back EMF ? Or was it the starting point in Tesla investigations and the origin of radiant energy ? If electricity can radiate in such way we have all energy problems solved, because we can convert energy from electric to etheric form and back eliminating all obstacles like Lenz law or ohmic resistance.

Read this thread : http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5132-1872-elihu-thomson-anyone-got-document-scientific-american-1872-a.html

wattsup

@sparks

Thanks for your explanation which I understand very well and for which I had the same type of general understanding in the past. Let me take a chance here and explain further that these days, I don't think there is any imparting or ejection of ionized electrons or the tube filament would have disintegrated even though it is in a vacuum, vacuum is not a remedy against ionized matter disintegrating. Also, such electron travel and impact to the anode would be evidenced by crater like action on the plate quickly pitting it with holes.

For me it is again ether. All matter is at least 80% space. The electrons around each nucleus of the filament matter is bonded so strongly that it can oscillate until it becomes red hot and still stay intact, but, since the filament has a positive and a negative connection, all it is still doing is being spun by the applied power that generates a fluctuating field around the filament, like a concentrated magnet, going north/south spinning like a micro highly pointed generator rotor turning and turning and getting red hot. On the other side, the electrons in the plate matter are first highly resistant and inert to the imparted heat of the filament even though there is a vacuum. The plate electrons are magnets in their own right all parts of matter are to any certain degree. They react to the filaments very concentrated field fluctuation and start turning to the filaments cadence producing your output.

The applied power spins the electrons in the filament, making it a red hot spinning generator field, that spins the electrons in the plate that spin and produce the output potential, which is again more spin. This is simply what everything does. It just can happen in different organizations and produce different effects. Like water can be frozen, vaporized, fluid, etc. But it is still water.

Why are the electrons spinning faster. The electrons main reason to exist is to protect the nucleus against any exterior onslaught otherwise the electron will no longer have a home to exist within. The faster spinning is just deflecting the heat away from the nucleus and even though the filament is getting red hot, the nuclei are still intact and this is why they can then go back to their original ambient matter state when the power is turned off.

An analogy to the electron protecting the nucleus is maybe like a Ninja Fighter that is being thrown one arrow per second. He can easily move his hands to deflect the arrow to the left or right as long as it is deflected away from him. Increase the arrows per second and you can no longer see his hands moving so fast all over the place in time to still deflect all the arrows. Well, the electron is doing the same thing for the nucleus. It is spinning to a frequency given by the ambient conditions. Increase the ambient temperature by applying a power source and the electron moves faster and faster deflecting anything that wants to effect the nucleus, even to the point of getting red hot.

Take a Tesla Coil that produces those fine long arcs. Do you think the electricity is just shooting out of the top of the device. If so they would then shoot straight out at the speeds required to shoot out and chances are you would never see them because it would be 1000s of times faster then a falling star, much quicker then the eye can see.

But the electricity does not shoot out. It only spins so fast that the air atoms (just like for filament atoms) start producing what we see as a plasma spark that is also spinning like a tornado tip. Think of a two foot long piece of semi-rigid plastic string. Hold one end between the palms of your hands with the rest of it going upward. The top end will dangle back down because it is not fully rigid. Now start rubbing your hands back and forth like if you had a wooden stick and wanted to start a fire like cavemen did. The string will do what. It will not go straight. It will still turn downwards and dandle and jump around very erratically all over the place while it is spinning back and forth. No look closely at the way the Tesla coil arcs jump around. This, for me, is the same effect of the arc on a Tesla coil. Spin conveyance to the highest degree.

But this is my personal view based on my personal observations of nature and have no scientific basis other then my own logic. But I will tell you that with this general understanding of spin conveyance, I can sit down and explain so many effects that are just badly explained by standard theory. This for me is what is guiding the way I do my experiments and actually now see the world.