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Understanding electricity in the TPU.

Started by wattsup, October 18, 2009, 12:28:42 PM

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wattsup

@wings

That patent is for picking up from preenergized cable. Not directly relative but it is still very interesting. Thank you.

stprue

@wattsup

What about using your idea but the input is coming from a AM radio.  I think I was able to get .043vdc off the one I built.  It had no ground, just a loop antennt. .043*25 caps charged to that =1.075vDC.  Of course distance from your local radio tower would make a difference. 

Not ideal but an idea.

wings

similar ?

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3696.0

MIT experiment one transmitter many receivers....more efficiency - posted by Broli at Energetic forum

"Although predicted by theory, the increase in efficiency when powering two devices at the same time had not been previously demonstrated in experiments. The team that carried out the recent work â€" Kurs, Moffat and Soljačić â€" found that when powering two devices at once, which individually could achieve less than 20 percent efficiency in power transfer, the combined efficiency climbed to more than 30 percent. The two receiving coils resonate with each other as well as with the transmitting coil, and help to reinforce the strength of the magnetic field. Kurs says that the efficiency should continue to rise as more devices are added, climbing toward a theoretical limit of 100 percent. The research has been funded by the NSF, the Army Research Office, DARPA, and a grant from 3M."

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2010/wireless-power-0409.html

wattsup

@wings

Thanks for putting up that thread. Just goes to show that relatively nothing is new but only rehashed time after time. Maybe at each endeavor we can push it forward a few steps. We will see since I have many other angles to do with the one wire method.

@all

Looking at the SM TPUs, it is also our responsibility to openly consider all potential methods of operation of the device, weather we like the final outcome or not.

While is was pulsing my recent toroid which I put again below, I noticed a funny coincidence and made a Video 9 located here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EFZuJKHxsc

In the video I am showing the toroid connected as per @gotolucs mode where my pulse positive is going to (G) and negative going to (F). My secondary is connected the same way with the load taken from (C) and (B). I used @gotolucs mode because is shows the highest inductance potential with this toroid core.

Now in the FTPU video all SM showed was a voltage rise up to around 60 volts. We know his videos were very well rehearsed and he made very great care to only show what he wanted to show and in essence detract from things he did not want to show. In the case of the FTPU, he never lit a bulb, not even an LED. This tells me he could not lit a regular bulb with this device and all he showed was voltage, touting it as an energy conversion device.

From all my tests so far, given that the FTPU had only two rings of 2 1/4 turns with some scantily wound outer coil, there is no way in hell that the coupling between the coils will generate enough power to light a regular bulb. It just will not happen with such low possible energy supply. So I decided to use just the center toroid and in the video you will see the results and come to your own conclusion. I am not saying this is the definite thing, but this does provide a concrete possibility that the center toroid does in fact have a primary and hidden secondary windings, shown with the two different wire gauges leaving the SM toroid. And, if that is in fact the case, then all his outer rings, etc were are smoke and mirrors to detract from this one component that he so readily is not afraid of showing both in the FTPU, OPTU, MTPU and LTPU (2).

If the toroid was so normal and run of the mill, why did he always use that same model build. Why not just take any commercial toroid that is wound in bucking mode. Why insist on only using that particular toroid? Because it is not so run of the mill. This may also explain the highest amperage readings in the LTPU because this is where the prime coupling event occurred.

So for me, the following video proves the concrete possibility that the FTPU was only driven by the center toroid to do his demo. He also used this toroid in the OTPU and showed 90 something volts, which I did also. But int he OPTU he used those heavy lamps. Why use heavy lamps when all his other videos used lighter lamps. Why take the risk of having people think he had batteries inside the lamps. One would take that risk in one did not have any other choice to make  his video. So he showed voltage on the multimeter, and showed amperage by lighting those bulbs and all this could have been done very easily.

So now I am thinking the FTPU was just a show of voltage because he could only show voltage, and the OTPU show voltage the same way as with the FTPU but this time he had batteries inside the lamps to also show amperage and this is the video that clinched the deal.

So for me right now, one proven possibility is that SM did show the exact function of the FTPU and OTPU as a voltage producer but he faked the amperage production in the OTPU video. This does not mean I will not work to prove this is wrong, but so far, Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Looks like SM pulled a fast one at least on the OTPU.

More soon.

Oh, I am ordering some Ltiz wire 1000 strands. Very expensive stuff. lol

giantkiller

Those center toriods are mounted on a base that have two male bayonet tangs. One is slim and one is wide. Just like car audio speaker connections. The odd thing is he never connects to them. As far as Litz go you can use the ezflow Audio cable. I believe he wrapped 90 degrees on that also.

Like Marco showed: voice coils.

Put a 10meg resisitor across the cap and disconnect it from the circuit then measure the voltage. It should disappear as in ghost voltage or short it separately(you won't see a spark). Seen this many times.

The leds are lit from 27milliwatts.

Use a 555 board to pulse it. This is similar to the oscilator in the stun gun on a nine volt battery.

The large loops could be a hoax. After all he never damaged the center units. This would be a good ploy to focus attention on the centers. Another misnomer. Marco and Grumpy advertised the center toroid too as a being very important. They mentioned it as a magamp. In my view that was a purposeful NDA misnomer.

I will fire a stun gun into my bucker. I can put a second layer on it also. I will also try my iron ring.

What if SM fired two stun gun circuits into the outer loops also. My thinking has always been that he took a stun gun and altered the last stage into a bigger loop. He told me not to fire the stun gun into a 15 foot diameter audio cable loop in the yard. The FAA would see it.
If you look at the last stage of a stun gun there is a big cap and ignition type coil there.
Then the emmissions from the outer loop would smack the center toroids.

Sm told me 'No big loop'.
Moab said 'I dont need  To use a stun gun'.
Grumpy posted a Tesla picture showing multiple spark gap stages.
Grumpy posted 'No NDA. Just end up in jail'

What if I invert what SM and Moab said and take that as a 'Yes' to what I tried?
That would make what Grumpy said as peritinent.

There was and has been so many things to try that was and is easy to just take what people said at face value. I was just the new guy then. But now after all the attempts, papers, patents, inventors have all shown the same event in different ways. Jack up the Bloch wall. This is an electrostatic process.

Si, Kemosabe?