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Understanding electricity in the TPU.

Started by wattsup, October 18, 2009, 12:28:42 PM

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giantkiller

In my tenure here I have had contact, training, posts, PM, email, skype with alot of heavy hitters that we all know. And now they are gone. If I had only known what I know now I could have focused on what was being passed to me and had deeper conversations. I am still putting patterns together and making realizations.

It all started with a simple patent 382282:
http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat382282.pdf

As a side note:
I realized how Ed was driving the castle.
1: In happens during a full moon when the water rises under the castle
2: He pulled out the iron rod from the door so it was suspended in air
3: He slid the long tube coil on the rod
4: He strapped a bottle coil on the front generator tray
5: He set a variable capacitor on the side generator tray
6: He wired the two coils in parallel
7: He hooked the vari cap in parallel to the two coils
8: He ran a wire from the engine crank axle of the generator tied to one of the piston arm sections
9: He ran the wire out to the place of 'Blow here' turnstile.
10: He hooked his headphones to the iron door to hear the resonance
11: He pulled on the wire to force the generator to spin and kept it going
12: He used a rubber hose to blow across the bottle neck

This is how he achieved the multilayer charge and this is how he rang the bell twice.
He could have done these things from the rocker. Then when he was done he simply rolled up the hose and the wire and put everything away. :)

Back to testing:
I have the coil setup as pulsing the primary then going into its secondary opposing then into the next primary and then into its secondary opposing. both primary directions are parallel.
What is interesting is when I have the resonant freq set at 104620.7 50% duty cycle with the pulse not engaged I click the engage button and the vom across the cap jumps to 2.5 volts immediately otherwise the vom reads .971v. I do have to let the cap discharge down. The scope p-p voltage never shows anything amiss. It shows 1.5v p-p. The scope is not attached by ground or probe. The probe is merely setting on the lead between the coil run and the high side driver.
The LED never lights.

It was Armagdn03 that told me the Fet makes a difference when high sided so the coil sits next to ground.

otto

Hello all,

@GK

Armagdn03 was right but for a TPU its wrong to pulse it in a high side manner. I tried it and had a lot of trouble. Pulse your coils in a "normal" way!! Drain to the coils and Source to the minus, trust me its better. Much better!!

Otto

giantkiller

Quote from: otto on April 20, 2010, 12:37:05 AM
Hello all,

@GK

Armagdn03 was right but for a TPU its wrong to pulse it in a high side manner. I tried it and had a lot of trouble. Pulse your coils in a "normal" way!! Drain to the coils and Source to the minus, trust me its better. Much better!!

Otto

Ok. That is an easy switch. The BEMF goes negative at a greater amplitude than the original pulse height. With the High side fet I am dumping the BEMF straight to ground so I have lost energy. I also will put a conduction control diode and not let the FET internal diode perform its function. I will keep the BEMF energy charge in the coil.


THANKS Otto!

In these small tests I am doing I see the effects at single stages of testing. Last night the obvious result was the voltage shooting up to a charge level very fast at a certain frequency. I assume it is the resonance. This next step will avert the dumping of the BEMF to ground.
In using Jason's software I can manually sweep frequencies from 1khz to 5Mhz till I see the meter shoot up. Then I run an automated sweep to find the exact freq. It doesn't matter at this point but it does allow for the testing in the band to watch for other effects i.e meter jumps, LEDS lighting, etc.
By attaching the scope the LED lights up and is brighter than when it shows during resonance. That is why no devices attached.
Which leads to a very profound realization: If you want to use attached devices then that is why you must start the testing with HV or current draw greater than 1 amp. I take a bow while the crowd cheers. And certain configurations could be setup as ground losses due to a conduction path that in our case the device has to float. The use of batteries is the starting point and is an obvious clue. Why would you use batteries then connect grounded equipment to the device? In Wattsup's tests he shows isolated meters and in some tests ungrounded sig gennies. You can not ring the bell by beating the ground with the clanger or burying the bell in ground. It has to swing.

To the bench!

wattsup

@GK

Good go'in. Can't wait to hear more. Also, I really liked your ED discussion and description of operation. I can see a potential movie, staring @GK as the mad replicator. lol

I have made my FTPU mock up with top and bottom rings using lamp wire and the outer CC as one wind on top going to one on bottom with Litz wire (my new Litz of 1650 strands should be arriving tomorrow), and I am using my center toroid with two pri and two secs. I will be testing this in many ways to see if there is any different effects using both dc pulses and sound card sine waves that I can adjust the phasing. I will try this then I will make another mock up ring but this time I will wind the CCs as two per ring, in bucking mode. So you would have a toroid pri and sec in bucking mode and then the ring CCs in bucking mode also. I am suspecting that the single CC wind per ring is causing some cancellation so this CC in bucking will let me see the difference and report back. Should be rather educational although is am sort of pissed off at one thing.

Since my last video that showed voltage rise to 60 volts using 9 volts input at micro amps, that is basically all that is required by anyone to replicate the SM FTPU video. So I am wondering what is the point in trying more FTPU tests. I think that video said it all. I mean what did SM really show in the FTPU video but voltage rise. The magnet is working a reed switch that when removed opens one of the outer lines and this causes an internal capacitor to slowly decline in voltage. Nothing new there as we see this everyday.

Also, what @otto mentioned about what I simply term as "positive pulsing" versus "negative pulsing" may be very true but not for the obvious reason and this is my continuous quandary in this world of EE. We are sort of stuck in the forgetfulness of the reality of electricity and the unreality of how we see it or are taught how to look at it. Our circuits show positive exits and negative enters but in reality, it is the opposite. So, when you pulse the negative, you are actually sending impulses into an empty circuit. When you pulse the positive, the energy is already in the circuit and only connecting the final distance. The first one has empty room for resonance, the second one has a full house for more immediate effects without the delay of circuit saturation.

I would really like someone to clarify this question cause each time I look at a circuit I am always second guessing what is really going on. Is this warranted. Are we all screwy in the brains for having accepted over so many decades and decades this wrong way of looking at circuits, to the point that we even forget we are looking at the opposite event in reality, but are wondering still how the contrary would work better. Sounds crazy  but I have a hard time accepting this total irresponsibility of the higher brains to have let this drag on soo long. Or is this part of their master plan? Hmmmmmm. lol

giantkiller

@Wattsup,
I can't resist.
The bike pedal stroke is the same circumference as the rotation of the crank shaft. He could do it off his bike.
I am planning on going again 1:) to reproduce his coils on the wall and 2:) run the castle. There is a Walmart and Home depot down the street. All I have to take are my notes.

I like your answer to Otto. If I have a BEMF blocking diode between the coil and drain that will keep the saturation at full essentially creating the bell for the ringer. I also see this 'kept charge' as the interface to connect with the Earth's field.

I like this positive going effect better.