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Overunity Machines Forum



Don Smith's Device #9

Started by Xaero_Vincent, October 27, 2009, 08:04:19 PM

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lumen


I have tried this method before and it is always the same thing! Lenz's law will apply and destroy any chance of OU.

Any device that depends on field density or field direction to move or gain energy will never work because Lenz's law will always apply.

The ONLY method that avoids Lenz's law is the one that never changes field density or field direction.
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allcanadian

@wattsup
QuoteIn the original photo text, you can read this........
"A mille watt motor turns the magnetic shield which separates the magnet pairs at their Bloch wall separation provides magnetic fluxing and useful Electrical Energy."
How the hell can you turn a rotor in a magnets blotch wall. The blotch wall is the center part of the magnet. How do you propose to do that. Does not make any sense at all.
I think your question relates to the very fundamentals of polarity, If I have a rubber band and I stretch it out with both hands then one half of the rubber band will be near my left hand and one half near my right hand. In between these two halves will be the center of the rubber band and this center will fall on neither the right nor left hand side, it is the point of neutrality having no polarity (left/right). Also, if we release the rubber band the polar condition or stress has not neutralized itself as thought, it has simply ceased to exist. All cultures speak of this, some refer to it as "the trinity of unity", trinity meaning 3, two polarities separated by a region of impolarity. Everything that is polarized has three components not two as most see it, we should also note that the center is impolar, having no poles as it defines the separation of the poles.
Now to answer your question, every polarity must be defined by it's "three" components. Take two magnets in repulsion, we will say the two north poles are facing inward. We now have seven conditions, from right to left we have a south pole, bloch wall, north pole, bloch wall,north pole,bloch wall,south pole. What!! -- yes, a bloch wall is defined as a separation of polar regions having no polarity but there is no distinction as to "the" polarity. Two magnets in attraction, the north/south poles in attraction will have a bloch wall between them as well.
Also, consider that the power of a pole is defined by it's difference to something else and this difference is a potential, this can be the opposite condition of the opposite pole, or empty space having no polarity or the bloch wall having no polarity. Magnetism, light, electricity, gravity, heat, etc... -- all differences or stressed conditions are polarized and all polarities are separated by an impolar region which defines there differences. The first question we should ask about the Smith machine is ---- Are the magnets in opposition or attraction as both conditions will produce a bloch wall between them?.
Regards
AC
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

lumen

If the magnets are in repulsion, the shield will be greatly attracted to and will take a good amount of energy to remove.

If the magnets are in attraction, the shield will be easy to remove but harder to insert. The fact remains, this device will never be OU.

If it was even close to achieving over unity, it would only be due to the fact that some part of the operation was acquiring gain from the part of the operation that is not changing the field density or field direction.
I have tried shield methods.
There is however a way to build a motor that is free from Lenz's law! I am not sure about posting it knowing someone will make a zillion buckazoids on it but I just might anyway.


allcanadian

@lumen
QuoteIf the magnets are in attraction, the shield will be easy to remove but harder to insert. The fact remains, this device will never be OU.
I am not sure who to believe, you who have never had a working machine or Don Smith, an engineer/energy consultant with over 40 years experience and many patents to his name who has supposedly built many tested working machines:). The fact remains, if this was easy everyone would be doing it.

QuoteAny device that depends on field density or field direction to move or gain energy will never work because Lenz's law will always apply.
This would seem to be a very broad all encompassing statement, I have found Lenz Law does not always apply for very simple reasons. Lenz Law is not a law, it is a theory based on the fact that few people understand "what" it is. Lenz theory relies on the fact that an induced current will produce a field in opposition to the one which created it. The key word here is "CURRENT", If a current does not develop in an induced coil there is no Lenz theory. Tesla liked to store the induced potential difference or voltage as capacitance in the coil, an electric field, to which Lenz theory does not apply. Once the inducing force had subsided he would then discharge the capacitance hence--no current to oppose--no lenz theory applies. This is what Thane Heinz is doing with his machine, I know this because when I chatted with him he agreed this is exactly what he is doing. If you want to change the rules at the very least you must understand them.

Regards
AC
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

dankie

Yeah but its not easy and it cant be built without very specific knowledge . Tuning , materials and dimensions . Otherwise it doesnt work .

If he shows the device out in public you can bet that the hidden complexity is such that you should  just forget about it . Otherwise you  will just  become an irrelevant theorist fool,  linking , youtoubing and depending and never actually accomplishing anything that saves a single dime for you and your family .