Flynn's Parallel Path

[jake]

It's partly described in  US5926083.
CAREFULLY study it.

User,

I did carefully study it.  I don't agree with the analysis in the patent and I explained why in an earlier post.

Lets quit talking about it now.

Build it and show us.

[gn0stik]

Has anybody built one of these things? Seems to me it would be pretty simple to take a couple of small bits of iron, some winding wire and a couple of magnets and test the basic principle. Has anyone done this? If not I fail to see the point in speculating any further on it. If this thread has any point it would be verification, otherwise we're just spinning our wheels right? Forgive me if I missed it, as I lost interest in this thread a long time ago, when it looked like we were just going to talk it to death.

[JackH]

Well here I go.   About two years ago I ended a two year work on the Flynn Parallel Path motor design.   I studied all his drawings and info on his web site.

In that two years I built five motors on his design.  The best I could get out of the motors was around %95 efficiency.  Now that was not bad, the motors all used brushes to activate the coils.  Not bad for a brush motor, however I could never get overunity with any one of them.   I used all types of magnets including ceramic and rare earth N45's and N48's.  These motors were all built using ceramic bearings, the drage was keept to a mininum.  The bigest problem I had was over saturating the silicon steel laminat and I couldn't figure out how to build the motor without that problem.  Maybe Flynn has a secret, I don't know.  Now before you get huffy, I'm just saying I couldn't get it to go overunity, however somebody else may do so.

Now the Parallel Path Idea does work, but incorperating it in a motor where histeress and back emf takes place, I just could not get good results.

At that point I new I had to figure out a way to work the Parallel path a different way or it just was not going to be a seccess.  Thats where I'm at today.  I think I figured out a better way to get the job done.  I'm still working on it.

JackH

[gn0stik]

Thanks Jack!

I knew someone had to have done this. It seemed too basic a concept for someone to not tinker with it.

Now we have some solid results to refer to..

BTW Jack did you try mu-metal shielding to avoid saturation? It's expensive, and I don't know the configuration of the motor you built, but it might help a lot. Depending on what the siSteel was for of course.

[JackH]

Hello gn0stik,

No I didn't try mu-metal, however I really didn't think it would work to well because I don't think it has a very high resistence to electric flow.  If that's the case histeress would have been an even bigger problem.  I really do not know too much about this mu-metal, maybe that IS the secret.

I would really like to try some of this mu-metal on my motors, maybe it would be much better than silicon steel laminet.  I contacted the manufacture last week about it but it is way out of my budget at this point.

I think maybe that Flynn has not completly given the full details on his motor.  After reading of how he was getting so much HP out of such a small motor, maybe I have missed something.   All I know is that I spent the better part of two years making models trying to make it go over unity.

Later,,,,,JackH