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Overunity Machines Forum



Joule Thief 101

Started by resonanceman, November 22, 2009, 10:18:06 PM

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sm0ky2

Quote from: MileHigh on March 09, 2016, 02:17:44 PM
So this all about me "daring" to ask for solid explanations and data about an ICE or two-stroke engine in "resonance?"


that whole mess seems like a feat of engineering to me, and if you somehow managed to get all the parts to line up just right, im not sure you could even call it an engine anymore..

the engine itself, is always at half-wave resonance with its' driveshaft.

assuming you have no transmission, and used some kind of belt-drive, instead of gear-teeth.
at a 1:1 turning ratio, for simplicity of discussion.

the alternator, also would have to have a belt-drive that is both synchronous with the engines rotation
as well as with its' internal electric coils, which I don't even think they consider this when making alternators....

same with the cooling fan, and anything else rotating with the engine.

not to mention, EVERYTHING would have to be aligned with a timing light...
like your cam

you would basically be build a spacecraft, and im pretty sure it would rip itself apart as soon as you achieved your goal.

That is what you would have to do to obtain "total system resonance" with a two stroke engine.
like we are talking about doing with electronic circuits.

any impedance mismatch on the engines rotation will throw the entire system out of resonance.
Now, that is not to say that some engines, under some RPM values, cannot be "partially" resonant
with the rotation of the engine.

like two matched fly-wheels, transferring momentum from one part of the system to the other requires little excess energy.
can this type of thinking result in a decrease in fuel consumption, at those RPM's?
I don't see why not,. but given the examples shown thus far, I would not claim that resonance was what they were observing.

I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

sm0ky2

Now, if someone cam to me and wanted to explain how the 3200RPM
somehow related to tolerances in the system, and the 106.666Hz
9 million meter wavelength, or a harmonic there-of....

I might be willing to hear them out.
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

ramset

MH
Your punch drunk and spewing babble.

Calling a person a BS'er  is not what ??

You have become an abomination of your own goalpost moving self !!

Triple putz tehnical foul ,
If we were playing by the old kings rules
You would be given a
Time out !!

I leave you to your new standards ,should be self evident (by your own hand) to your readers




Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

MileHigh

Any engine is essentially a mechanism that operates synchronously for the majority of the moving parts.  It's very important to not confuse "synchronous operation" with "resonance."

For example, finding a better dwell angle and having dynamically changing valve timing (or whatever) is not "resonance" by any means - it's just an improved timing sequence for the synchronous operation.

If you have a "tuned" exhaust chamber for the expended gasses from the cylinders that gives you less back pressure and therefore more efficiency, that's still not "resonance" in the scientific and engineering sense.  One more time, it's just an improved version of a synchronous machine.

This is not my area of expertise, but if someone says that the "tuned" air intake ports and "tuned" exhaust chambers give you less air flow resistance and therefore more horsepower, that's great, but it is not resonance in the way we are meaning it on this thread and even in the regular world of engines it's not true resonance.  It's just a buzz term that the Marketing department knows sells more motorcycles or cars.

Now, on the other hand, if someone wants to explain exactly how an ICE or a two-stroke engine exhibits the property of "resonance" with a complete description, a mechanical schematic, and an annotated timing diagram I am all ears.  Even if they did show the process and explain the advantages, I am not sure it will indeed be true resonance.  Like I said, I am out of my element.  On the other hand the term "resonance" is used and abused all the time on the forums and in real life.  I refuse to take anything for granted.

The "mutual back-stroking club" when it comes to resonance and coils extracting energy from the aether, and "my circuit is an open system" and "getting electrons from the ground" is alive and well on the forums.  Sometimes you can say just about anything and you get drones nodding in approval.

MileHigh

MileHigh

Quote from: ramset on March 09, 2016, 02:59:38 PM
MH
Your punch drunk and spewing babble.

Calling a person a BS'er  is not what ??

You have become an abomination of your own goalpost moving self !!

Triple putz tehnical foul ,
If we were playing by the old kings rules
You would be given a
Time out !!

I leave you to your new standards ,should be self evident (by your own hand) to your readers

Why don't you go be a groupie on a new thread for a while?