STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[gravityblock]

Sure but nobody has ever said that ORBO uses 10A! If you've figured that out from the battery that Steorn is using then you must know that 10000mAh battery doesn't mean that it must provide 10A current. I don't really think that it can even provide such a current without any harm to the battery itself.

There's a big difference in 10,000mAh compared to 300mAh or less to what people are currently trying.  Even the current Paul tested his device on was only 1/3 of what the battery in the Orbo is delivery because he didn't want to flip it.  Let's put things into perspective for a change.  We're trying to do it with less.  Sometimes less is not better.  We're trying to do it our way instead of following what Steorn is doing.  Trying to do it with less and not following what Steorn is doing is not replicating, it's just building. 

I wonder how many people are using a 10,000mAh battery like Steorn is using in their Orbo replication attempts?  Not 1 that I have seen.  If we can't get what is known right, then I doubt we will get what is not known right, such as the core.

Less voltage, more current to match the Orbo.  Different core materials need to be tested and results compared since we're not 100% sure of the correct core.  This is just common sense and logical.  How anyone can disagree or ignore this is beyond me, but yet this is what will happen more than likely.  Totally unbelievable.  It doesn't really surprise me though, because I see it happen all the time.


GB

[k4zep]

Hi Gang,

Let me say, I have 16 wound cores, 45 turns each, same type of core and individually, each looks different on the scope in a static moving magnetic field condition as to how/when it switches and it is entirely non linear..  Some you can see the viscous delay and others it just isn't there......  I did NOT take into account the direction of the winding in the core and hence get different effects out of each core or that is at least one possibility.  Then too, when you put two cores next to each other, hell of an interaction between them when there shouldn't be.  Cancelation of fields which should occur, doesn't, addition of inductive fields doesn't make any sense.....This device is a bear to work with.  Have to back up and start with one coil.  Possibly will have to go ahead and put in the motor mode with variable pulse width and hight and timing to see if I can get all to match up, as they simply do NOT in a purely inductive magnetic field situation!...........Oh, I have a 10 Amp nimH battery when I need it.....  but are not there yet and don't need it!  It is possible that my two coil/ one magnet theory does not work and I will have rework my rotor to a two magnet system.....

Pulling my hair out,

Ben

[captainpecan]

I don't see any true replication attempts.  The replication attempts I am seeing is people modifying the setup trying to improve on it or following their own ideas on trying to obtain the Orbo effect.  I have a feeling people are holding back the data on their experiments because they're not getting the expected results.  Of course not, because we're building and not replicating.

I give up.  This is a waste of time.  Sean was right in his statement about the people on their forum don't make up the scientific community.  I didn't agree with him before, but I do now.

Well, don't count us all out yet.  And yes, some of us have been watching every single theory that has been popped out here.  Just because we don't all reply to it, does not mean we are ignoring it.  Trust me, I've been following all your comments, and trying to learn more about each effect, and move along as best I can.  Keep it coming, just don't get to frustrated.  The search for free energy is not an easy one without headaches.

I don't like siding with people who seem to just argue about everything, but I must say, just because they used a 10 amp hr battery, does not mean they are using that much current at all.  For all we know, they are using 5ma of current, and just simply wanted a battery that could run their orbo for days easily if it did not charge as planned.  You must realize, after the public humiliation Steorn went through last time, I'm quite sure they were planning on avoiding showing a motor that died after 1 hour of operation if it did not work as planned.  I personally think the 10 amp hr battery was just a form of insurance for them.

I have not posted much about my replications, for a couple reasons.  My digital camcorder shot craps so have not been able to shoot video, although I think I found a camera that will work okay now.  Also, my replications have quite frankly not shown anything different than the others yet, so nothing good to post about them.  My current replication is not done yet but is as exact as I am able to do so far to replicating Orbo.  Here's a couple photo's just to show I am working on the dual magnet version and the vertical toroidal coils.  It's obviously not done yet, and I do not even have the uprights attached yet or all the magnets installed.  But I just wanted to show the direction my replication is taking.  Hopefully I will at least get enough time to get it running in a day or so.

[captainpecan]

Something that keeps bugging me is this.  If the orbo we see when watching live cam 1, is actually putting more energy in the battery than it is taking out, why hasn't the battery exploded yet? lol, just curious.   Second, unless maybe they have been swapping the battery when I have not checked, then either that 10 amp hr battery is lasting a very long time, or they are looping the video.  I don't know the answer to any of these questions, just thought I'd add my 2 cents.

[markzpeiverson]

I don't see any true replication attempts.  The replication attempts I am seeing is people modifying the setup trying to improve on it or following their own ideas on trying to obtain the Orbo effect.  I have a feeling people are holding back the data on their experiments because they're not getting the expected results.  Of course not, because we're building and not replicating.

GB

Have to agree with GB, and coming from a scientific backround, the initial goal should be an exact replication.  Once that is achieved, then begin trying variations... 

It should be painfully obvious that the positioning of a coil by a millimeter one way or the other could decide success or failure... and when you've got 10s of millimeters as a possible position, the chances for INCORRECT positioning, and thus FAILURE, are far greater than getting it right.  This begs an exact replication first to verify operation, and then you can 'get creatve'...
-Mark