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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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exnihiloest

Quote from: Omnibus on February 20, 2010, 04:04:05 PM
...you'll do better not to clog the discussion with misinterpretations due to you poor understanding of the experiment.

Psychological projection.
You do not understand basic electronics equations and you do not reply with rational and logical arguments but by preaches like an imam. Please avoid to give lessons. Your level in physics is far from being enough.


Omnibus

Quote from: exnihiloest on February 21, 2010, 06:33:46 AM
Psychological projection.
You do not understand basic electronics equations and you do not reply with rational and logical arguments but by preaches like an imam. Please avoid to give lessons. Your level in physics is far from being enough.

Stop posting this crap. You don't understand the essence of the discussion, let alone electronics and your gibberish has no place here. Don't clog the discussion with your nonsense.

Omnibus

Of course, it should never be forgotten that violation of CoE through discontinuous production of excess energy has already been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt and that fact alone should be part of the mainstream science. The opposition to that would be somewhat lesser if continuous production of excess energy is demonstrated, as in eOrbo. Of course, the real breakthrough in this respect would be to demonstrate continuous production of excess energy without any energy output. That is an engineering task of enormous practical difficulty for the time being. Therefore, the more viable and easy (although yet prone to attacks by zealous activists), in addition to the already available discontinuous case, is to obtain quality data by independent parties that would confirm, say, the eOrbo high standard results. I see this as a major opportunity for establishing OU research as a legitimate academic research now that the time has come when superb equipment such as, for instance, DPO 7104 is already available (which hasn't even been around some 12 years ago although OU claims have been put forth then). 

Magluvin

Oh. there is Excess energy being produced. Well that is good.

The way I see it then, all that need be done is to feed the output back to the input and she is a runner. More out than in (errr used elsewhere to allow output to happen).
As for a release of other energy, I see the toroid just changing the flux direction on one side if the magnet, causing fluctuation in the pickup coil. Sort of like turning an armature to get the same, even though the energy from the hand did not directly generate the output electricity.
I have done quite a bit of this flux path controlling with the Orbonbon and some new tests. But it seems to take at least as much to pulse the toroid as the output ever gets. Maybe Im just not there yet.
It seems the amount of energy it takes to change the flux path enough to cause, things to happen elsewhere, just adds up to as much as it would take to do it another way.

This is just so far with what I have found. Like I said, maybe Im just not there yet.

Mags

Omnibus

QuoteThe way I see it then, all that need be done is to feed the output back to the input and she is a runner.

It's been explained many, many times why that's not the agenda. The agenda right now is to reproduce the high quality results of Steorn and possibly study by those rigorous methods other claims such as those of Paul Sprain and the clones of Adams motor (Bedini).