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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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PaulLowrance

#2485
February 07, 2010, 04:25:45 PM
Quote from: teslaalset on February 07, 2010, 03:36:14 PM
I'd like to further discuss the input energy spend on the Orbo as demonstrated by Steorn in their latest video's.
There is still something I don't understand about the integrated energy curve of the input of Orbo.

We can distinguish 3 phases:
1) In the integral curve, the first part is climbing until 25 degrees from TDC.
A horizontal part means consumption is zero.
2)Then the curve is diving very steeply, meaning much electrical energy is produced in a very short time.
3) The last part of the integrated power curve shows a slow declining part, also meaning electrical energy is produced, but at a slower paste.

I can understand the first part. This is where the coil is powered.

But what is causing the electrical energy generation in 2) and 3)?
Can we exchange some thoughts here?

The attached image should explain it. That's how it seemed to me from the start.

Bruce_TPU

#2486
February 07, 2010, 04:31:17 PM
Quote from: maw2432 on February 07, 2010, 07:20:10 AM
Bruce,   nice looking coil.  Did it saturate?    Could you please explain how you shorted the secondary?    Thanks.   

I just received 4 of those toroids and was wondering how they should be wound.

Bill

Hi Bill,

I will let you know in a bit, as I am just having time to play... LOL
You wind the secondary, strip the leads and join them together.  That is it.  They are not joined "electricaly" to the circuit, if I may use that word.

I will let you know if it works!

Cheers,

Bruce
http://energyfreedomreport.com
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

PaulLowrance

#2487
February 07, 2010, 04:34:34 PM
As everyone should be able to see, it's very simple. No need to subtract anything. Very simple equation, I^2 * R. The R is the coil wire resistance. The blue trace is net input (from battery), brown trace is output from pickup coil, just as Sean said. No mystery. No silly .99 misunderstandings.

skcusitrah

#2488
February 07, 2010, 04:34:49 PM
2) [is explained here]

No diode is used in Orbo.
No energy goes back to battery, as shown in post.

PaulLowrance

#2489
February 07, 2010, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: skcusitrah on February 07, 2010, 04:34:49 PM
2) [is explained here]

No diode is used in Orbo.

Wrong. Sean said from start there's a diode. They would be wise to use a simple rectifier in this particular demo to show higher efficiency.



Quote from: skcusitrah on February 07, 2010, 04:34:49 PM
No energy goes back to battery, as shown in post.

Of course they are. Look at the integrated power plot.
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