STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[gravityblock]

It is not the point. He is wrong because the toroidal coil is not at 90° from the output coil. This would be true only if the plane of the toroid was horizontal as the output coil. But we know that it doesn't work in this position. What is to be accounted for is the angle between the plane of each turn of the toroid coil and the plane of the output coil.

The output coil is horizontal and the toroidal coil is vertical. In the left and right vertical sections of the toroid coil, the plane of each wire turn is parallel to the plane of the output coil, thus they are coupled.
The idea that no field can escape a toroidal coil is false when the core permeability is not uniform. As the toroidal magnetic field inside the core opposes the permanent magnet field in one of the vertical section of the core, and adds in the other side, the permeability is not the same in the 2 sides, thus the flux is not balanced, it follows that field escapes leaving us with a direct coupling between the toroid coil and the output coil.

If the voltage and current doesn't drop on the toroidal coil when a load is put on the pickup coil, then the magnetic interactions are decoupled.  Naudin has already showed this in his experiments. He even says, "the best tuning is done when there is no change in the measured DC input power while the output coil is loaded."

Yes, if it's not tuned properly, then the magnetic interactions won't be decoupled, but this is not the case when it's properly tuned.

GB

[petersone]

Hi GB
Why do you say the voltage/current doesn't DROP when a load is put on the pickup coil,normally the input would rise when a load is on the pickup coil,I seem to be missing something,what?
peter

[gravityblock]

Hi GB
Why do you say the voltage/current doesn't DROP when a load is put on the pickup coil,normally the input would rise when a load is on the pickup coil,I seem to be missing something,what?
peter

It's not a transformer. This video of Naudin clearly shows the input power doesn't change when a load is put on the pickup coil, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xS6Fknxv18

This means the magnetic interactions are decoupled and there is no BEMF, Lenz violation.

GB

[gravityblock]

Here's my current understanding of how the solid state device is working and it should apply equally well to the eOrbo as well.  This doesn't mean I have it correct.

There is a magnetization-demagnetization process.  During the magnetization of the toroid core from the pulse, the pickup coil is opened (Can't be coupled here).  After the pulse has ended the magnetization of the core doesn't stop immediately.  Induction lags in ferromagnetic materials with quick changes in tension of the field.  This phenomenon is attributed to magnetic viscosity. 

After the pulse, the pickup coil is closed while the induction change is still occurring in the core material due to magnetic viscosity (No coupling here either because the toroid coil is opened).  The continued magnetization of the core after the pulse causes the magnetic field of the magnets to fluctuate which cuts the wires in the pickup coils to induce an EMF.  This causes excess heat to be generated in the toroidal core from the load and the core is demagnetized due to heat.

Using this lag in induction allows the magnetic interactions to be decoupled from each other.  The excess energy is due to the heat generated in the ferromagnetic materials from the load during the demagnetization process.

Spontaneous magnetization in the area H=(1.2 + 1.4)Hc is a basis for COP>1 when demagnetization is due to heat.  The excess energy is not coming from the magnets, but is coming from the ferromagnetic materials.

The magnetic interactions are decoupled, thus No BEMF.

GB

[FatChance!!!]

Yes, the absence of back EMF definitively proves that Orbo is overunity.

By no Back EMF, do you mean the return voltage spike when the Toroid is switched off or
do you mean the induced coil voltage by the passing magnets?
There is a big difference in these two "voltages".