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Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?

Started by Cap-Z-ro, December 09, 2009, 07:50:31 PM

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gravityblock

Quote from: silverfish on December 19, 2009, 07:15:39 PM
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I'm open to all of the above. I find it interesting that the recent spiral event in Norway and a video of what appears to be a massive rotating tetrahedron over the Kremlin, took place on the same day - and there is also a fascinating video of a contra-rotating spiral formation in China.
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Contra-rotating spiral formation relative to what?  When looking at the front face of a clock, the hands will be moving CW, when looking at the back face of a clock, the hands will be moving CCW.  It all depends on what side of the spiral you are on, when filming it.  The spiral in Norway would look like it was contra-rotating to itself if it was filmed from both sides.

It's all about your frame of reference, thus relativity.  It doesn't mean the spiral formation in China was contra-rotating to the spiral formation in Norway.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

onthecuttingedge2005

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on December 19, 2009, 10:34:13 PM
@Jerry
Aerospace chemical engineering is one of my specialties.  Do you know what kind of fuel the Russian rocket used?  N2O4 and kerosene? N2H4?

--Lee

Hi Lee.

all I know is the article assumes that it was a malfunctioning Bulava missile.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1234430/Mystery-spiral-blue-light-display-hovers-Norway.html

if we go to wiki and read about the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulava_missile

we can get some data for investigation.

what we really need is some spectral analysis of the gases in real time, I am not sure if we could do this in a video but it may be possible.

from some of the videos I've seen with more frame work seems to suggest that the the missile started its elevation at the apex of the blue cork screw and as it reached a certain elevation it went into fail safe mode as it started jetting into a more concentric circle.

I am pretty certain it was a piece of junk Bulava missile because the documentation on this type missle has a lot of negative results, russia was having to many failures during tests of this system.

Jerry ;)

onthecuttingedge2005

Quote from: nitinnun on December 19, 2009, 08:55:58 PM

cutting edge 2000,
has a hidden motive.

Yes, I do have a motive, I am another James Randy and I can be a pitbull when it comes to people making uneducated or improper investigation into a subject that I know more about. I am a hard critic but I have tried to keep my critic level to a minimal.

I am a 30 year electrical and mechanical engineer with 2 years of chemistry college experience, I am a logical and analytically minded person, I tend to research things to death until I have my fill on the subject. my first original trade as a journeyman electrician was good when I was a kid, I studied computers and computer software programming as I began my Electrician trade, I became knowledgeable enough to begin my own computer business as a side job for 12 years.

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he is going out of his way,
to discredit things.

of course, I am a critic, what would you expect, for the respect of the moderators here I keep my level of criticism to minimal when I see something that doesn't make 'logical' sense, I am one of those people that can totally ruin your magic act.

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in another post,
he admitted that he has family,
who are a part of the "Illuminati".

I would appreciate that you do not slander my family any more or I will ask one of the moderators to spank you and send you to bed with a cookie!

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my advice is not to ignore him.

gee, I hope not, people who listen tend to learn more.

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but to expect him to go to great lengths,
to lie to you.

nitinnun, you are classic, I can sure say that about you.

Jerry 8)

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 20, 2009, 01:35:40 AM
if we go to wiki and read about the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulava_missile
we can get some data for investigation.
Hi Jerry,
I did see the site above.
Bulava uses solid fuel in all stages.
The spiral "rocket" had its exhaust plume disappear completely by dissipation.  There was no Al2O3 in the exhaust, or it would have left a smoke trail across the sky.  The Space Shuttle does leave a smoke trail of aluminum oxide.

Do you know for sure that Bulava uses aluminum in its fuel?  Does anyone else?

--Lee

"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

onthecuttingedge2005

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on December 20, 2009, 11:00:35 AM
Hi Jerry,
I did see the site above.
Bulava uses solid fuel in all stages.
The spiral "rocket" had its exhaust plume disappear completely by dissipation.  There was no Al2O3 in the exhaust, or it would have left a smoke trail across the sky.  The Space Shuttle does leave a smoke trail of aluminum oxide.

Do you know for sure that Bulava uses aluminum in its fuel?  Does anyone else?

--Lee

all I know for sure is what the article stated;

taken from the article;

The Bulava missile was test-fired from the Dmitry Donskoi submarine in the White Sea early on Wednesday but failed at the third stage, say newspapers in Moscow today.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1234430/Mystery-spiral-blue-light-display-hovers-Norway.html#ixzz0aFOVIjRx

anything beyond that would just be empirical evidence unless Moscow decides to give out more information, maybe reading some Russian news papers within the those dates can give more info as well.

Jerry