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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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exnihiloest

Quote from: freeorbo on March 19, 2010, 11:20:58 PM
Any version of the 2sGen is "over unity," because all of the energy going through the toroid can be accounted for, but none of the energy coming out of the pickup coil can be.
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False assertion. When a part of the ferrite core is saturated, there are strong flux leakages every where around. When current is drawn from a pickup coil coupled to this change of flux, energy is provided by the source of the change of flux, which is the current in the toroid coil.






wattsup

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on March 19, 2010, 01:12:04 PM
Experimental Note:
I forgot to mention last night, that when the Aluminum was added, there is tremendous vibration now of the SSG3, when running on 12v. 

I always believed that SM wrapped the collectors in Aluminum wires as the control wires on the TPU, for many reasons, including the fact that when asked if the control wires were copper, he replied, OTHER.  I know they are not steel, and when I wrapped an exact replica of the 6" TPU, according to the given winding instructions, I used steel wire for the controls and weighed it.  Determined the weight if I had used aluminum wire and found it would have matched exactly to the engineers reports stated weight, less an ounce or two for electronics and battery.

Now, I am solidly convinced.  magnet, alum control wires, copper stranded collector, three freq's to intermodulate.  30.075 KHz 222 KHz and 115 KHz for a 15" TPU.  Sorry for getting off track here, I just thought I would mention this...
Cheers,
Bruce

@Bruce_TPU

Yes sirreeeeee. That is all part of the test list for verification of as many variables as possible.

Regarding your stacked coils, from what I have learned doing my videos, I think you may consider stacking them off center, meaning put the first one on the table, then the core of the second to go over the center of the first, then the core of the third to go on the center of the second and so on. I made a quick diagram below. I would be very curious to know if the coupling effect is increased.


Bruce_TPU

Quote from: jaculat on March 20, 2010, 11:03:42 AM
Hi all

another clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDRJFfpFzuI

Hi Jaculat,

I liked your video, just a quick couple of questions for you.  In your little write up on youtube, you say, "I've noticed that at higher freq current drops more than 10 times." 

Are you talking about input current into your toroids?  Not output current to your LED's correct?

At what frequency did you see the ten time drop in current?

And lastly, could you post your 555 circuit and your input circuit pls.

Sorry about all of the questions, but they are important to my work.

@ Wattsup
I tried that early on, and it was promising, but then I added the bias on the outside of the brooks, as well as the interior bias winding and then the steel wire core inside of that.  And without all of that, I get very little output.

Great ideas though and please keep them coming!

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

jaculat

Bruce_TPU

I meant input current. Ne555 circuit is basic astable generator with freq and impulse regulation you can find many types everywhere... Don't know exact freq but more than 10 kHz I assume. Led works best at 1-3 kHz but current is high. I have only 1 meter so I can't measure 2 parameters at ones....