Magnet motor in Argentina

[orionjf]

Stefan,
I?m sorry but I can?t complete force simulations until this weekend, but I expect to post it as I promised (I?m using FEMM).
From a preliminary analysis, I agree with you that without springs the device doesn?t work. Even more: it is critical the ratio between string force (potential) and the distance between stator magnets. Even more: the system has losses if only the next magnet is pulled or you need a very very fine syncronism between them ... I?ll try to complete the simulation this weekend...
Regards.

[Omnibus]

I think the essence of the device is in the mechanism for lifting the magnets and the synchronization of their lifting and bringing down.

[ewitte]

As far as I understand Torbay claims to be pretty open about it and wants to disseminate it widely.

Probably will not happen if he wants to try to sell it.? I'm actually planning more on the execution of getting the information out.? Right now I'd just put togeter a cheap proof of concept device and have 100 people around the world replicate it and 20 other copies.? Then time delivering it with the delivery of 1000 targeted email messages for each person with full data about the device.? Also instuctions on those people seeding torrents like crazy.? So around the world 2000 working devices, 100,000 email messages sent to people interested in the subject and torrent seeds all over the place.? A good target would be engineering students and professors.

If you want money put your information at the bottem of each page and ask for donations from people with working devices.  I'd gladly donate money to someone who got past all the government crap that has been keeping this stuff secret.

[Omnibus]

I can?t agree more that even if Torbay?s motor works it would be an uphill battle to promote it even with zero profit. Isn?t that amazing, the whole Argentinean press was covering it and no one in the US has even heard of it? Even the Argentinean consul in New York wasn?t aware of it. Probably even the majority of us interested in this topic would not have heard of it if Jodo300 didn?t post the link here in this topic of the forum.

This is an obvious deliberate silencing of an important invention. As far as I understand the University of Texas at Houston where Wesley Snyder has demonstrated his device is completely silent. Not a word. Trying to kill it by ignoring it.

How am I to be certain that there hadn?t been such working devices in the past which had been deliberately shunned by the powers that be, vigorously promoting the doctrine that building of such devices is impossible? I can?t. Call me a conspiracy theorist but in the face of the facts I?ll wear such label as a badge of honor.

Therefore, I think it is very important as part of this discussion to talk about how to get across to society and to mainstream science, in particular, that self-sustaining motors are not an illusion.

One thing I?d do, and I mentioned it in one of my previous posts, is I will personally see to it that magician James Randi writes a 1 million dollar check to Torbay. As far as I understand, there are some other volunteers that are willing to give sums, although smaller, to an inventor who would show them a self-sustaining machine. I will seek them too and will make sure that they put their money where their mouth is.

Your idea about the torrents and the many people to send motors to is interesting but it needs some more thought, I think. Probably it is not unimportant who these motors are sent to. Unless you want to help directly the poor in Africa by supplying them with energy bypassing the official channels of help (probably because you don?t trust them too much). I think it wouldn?t do much to convince society by convincing just the powerless, be they students or professors. This device has somehow to get through the brick walls of the media and for that matter it has to somehow get across to the official publications of Academia (not just students and professors) ? I still entertain the hope that there are parts of Academia which care for the truth in science and to whom science is not just a job scheme which you maintain through protecting a certain official doctrine.

[Omnibus]

By the way, can anyone give some clarification regarding some Jose Alberto Zapata who appears to be a competitor of Torbay according to the text from http://www.asalup.org/content/view/156/27/ approximately translated by BabelFish:

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Does anyone know any details about Zapata's motor and what this is all about?