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Overunity Machines Forum



Magnet motor in Argentina

Started by Jdo300, March 19, 2006, 12:46:30 AM

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dutchy1966

Quote from: Omnibus on April 02, 2006, 12:53:34 PM
Feb2006, the three rotor magnets will keep the opposing three stator magnets down in your construction. How about the rest of the descended stator magnets, how are they gonna be kept steadily down without a motor cap or springs?

I think Feb2006 has a point here, the rest of the descended stator magnets will just stay down because of gravity. Remember there is no opposing magnet  that might make them move up! So if we can agree on the slightly tilted stator magnets to keep them down then I'm ready to give up on the springs.

Feb2006, How far you think we have to tilt the stator magnets? Few degrees should do i think....

dutchy

dutchy1966

Quote from: Omnibus on April 02, 2006, 12:03:38 PM
That seems the opposite of the construction we're discussing. What is the advantage, though?
Yep, that's exactly the opposite, i don't think it's a good idea to go for that at this stage. Too far off from Torbay's prototypes....

Feb2006

Quote from: dutchy1966 on April 02, 2006, 01:22:08 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on April 02, 2006, 12:53:34 PM
Feb2006, the three rotor magnets will keep the opposing three stator magnets down in your construction. How about the rest of the descended stator magnets, how are they gonna be kept steadily down without a motor cap or springs?

I think Feb2006 has a point here, the rest of the descended stator magnets will just stay down because of gravity. Remember there is no opposing magnet? that might make them move up! So if we can agree on the slightly tilted stator magnets to keep them down then I'm ready to give up on the springs.

Feb2006, How far you think we have to tilt the stator magnets? Few degrees should do i think....

dutchy

I think zero degree ,the forces up are very smal it wont stop it.
I only tilted the arm down so you should stop puting the spring in.

I only want a easy replica to build,so we can verify Torbay.

I go for the all around cap and wheel to hold down ,lift and descend.

The spring maybe is good for improvement later.


                                               tommy

Omnibus

Feb2006, if it's for simplicity, wouldn't it be simpler to use Torbay's design with stationary magnets, each one supplied with a small wheel to be pressed by the motor cap? Each of these stator magnets (or the piece they're embedded in) would easily be beveled to allow raising the magnet by an easily attachable large wheel. Seems to me that would be easier to manufacture.

georgemay

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Don't quite get what you mean by that. Do you mean leave all the staor magnets up and get them down by a guiding system as the rotor approaches? Could you make a little drawing of that idea?
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Oh absolutely not at all.  All Magnets stay low except one.  Like in the patent drawing rotor will approach the gap in the stator ring.  While rotor is close to the raised arm it will add repeling force to raised arm.  So my idea was to lower it down before rotor was even close  to it. Like one or two magnets away.  This way lowering arm has to overcome only repeling force among the stator magnets.
Maybe I am a little ahead and there is to early to talk about timing issue.
george