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Overunity Machines Forum



Magnet motor in Argentina

Started by Jdo300, March 19, 2006, 12:46:30 AM

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Omnibus

That'll be easier to make, probably. Especially the fact that stator magnets are simple rectangles so we won't need to make their front surfaces concave. You're right about the balancing, as well. Especially at these rpm's.

georgemay

Quote from: tao on April 05, 2006, 10:51:16 PM


So, to get 1 HP out of hartiberlin's design (where the rotor has 5Nm or torque on it) the rotor would have to spin at 1419.46 RPM

T
Tao

Tao,
What was diameter of rotor/stator you used for this calculations?  I do not want to build it too small. :) was it 3.5"?
George

hartiberlin

Hi Tao, many thanks for the new great Bryce drawings and the calculations. Maybe, iy you can now render with it several pics which shows the magnets going up and down we can compose of this a complete animation, how the Torbay principle works...
That would be great, if we could have at least an animation of it.
I also saw in my simulations, that it is curious, that rectangular stator magnets seem to have more force and torque onto the rotor and I still ask me, why this is ?? It am still puzzled by this fact ?? Is this logical ?
Okay with also a pure disc magnet as the rotor it will also be much easier to design the rotor, instead of single rectangular rotor magnets combined...
I still have to simulate, if the disc based magnet rotor gives more torque than a few rectangular magnets in the rotor combined...
We also need to do force simulations to see, how big the repelling force is to press one stator again back down in your new pics example, but as the next stator magnet is already liftibg up, this backpressing force will be much lower....
Anyway, this new design looks very good and easy to make ! Thanks!
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hartiberlin

Also let us be realistic, this principle is just too much mechanical stress to rotate at higher RPM, so we can be lucky, if we get to 300 RPM and can get maybe 10Watts out contineously in the first prototype.... Do you agree ?
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hartiberlin

Also I ask myself, if wheels will indded have the smallest friction on the lid-cap and if it is not better to have some maybe graphit based sliding contact for the stators at the lid-cap. also it must be probably a real triangular-eponential ramp with no bump at the end, so the stators will not jump too much at higher RPM so it will not be too shaky and wobbling....
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