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Overunity Machines Forum



The Ossie motor

Started by robbie47, February 02, 2010, 03:53:17 AM

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Jimboot

Quote from: B2moos on February 02, 2010, 01:35:53 PM
Solinear ,

The advantage of the solution with a Reel with core or Torus, is that one has two Forces:
- An Attraction force to the low permeability of material constituting the core: Metglas or others.
- A Force of repulsion following the impulse.

The easy way of Ossie is to use the same Reel to generate the impulse and to collect energy due to the rupture of the magnetic field and to hope to reload the Battery.
Precisely, I think that a Orbo engine + Ossie would be more powerful.
I agree. Altho I am a complete noob at all of this. I'll be trialling some of those aircoils with metglas cores. Not sure whether they will get saturated or not but I'll find out.

Jimboot

Quote from: solinear on February 02, 2010, 10:34:00 AM
If they want to convince people that they're onto something other than just another motor, they'll have to give us numbers for input energy (watts) and output energy (watts).  Until then, they really are just throwing volts around and volts mean nothing.  Is it 1.5 volts at 1 amp (1.5 watts) or 1.5 volts at 5 amps (7.5 watts).

150 volts at .01 amps is the same as 1.5 volts at 1 amp.

Watts is what we need and until they either get volts *and* amps or just watts (which is just volts * amps), it could be 1 watt or 50 watts, but we have no idea.

BTW, they really should go invest in some rechargeable batteries - they're not exactly expensive (what, $8 - less than the magnets cost them, probably).

(edit) Just watched the video and have to say that the rotational speed is... disappointing.
I'll do some numbers for you tonight. By the way I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm simply investigating & sharing (open source) my results. I'm not using a rechargeable battery as I wanted to see what would happen if I used a bog standard old battery. So far my 8 year old D cell which had 1.32V at the start of the run is at 1.2V after 35hours of running at 300RPM. The amps are extremely low I know that but I don't have an exact measure yet. I'm simply trying to learn here and hopefully help others with my findings.

captainpecan

Quote from: futuristic on February 02, 2010, 02:35:24 PM
Hi guys.

I would recommend to try this design.
Instead of using half-wave rectifier to pickup negative part of AC wave we could use full-wave rectifier to feed the battery with all induced current.
Below is Naudins scope shot of induced voltage in a coils and my suggested circuit.

Have fun,
Frenky

I completely agree and have already been playing with the full wave concept.  Only problem is, unless I am looking at the circuit wrong, doesn't that short out the battery?  Maybe I'll go ahead and test it, maybe I'm looking at it wrong, but I have not done it yet because I thought I may need to use reeds to connect the second half of the full wave so they are not connected when the pulse is delivered?

I'll see if I end up shorting out my battery and give it whirl, maybe I'm looking at it wrong.

futuristic

Hi.

I see no way that battery would be shortened. I'll make tomorrow some sketchs of current flow in each part of waveform.

Have fun ;)
Frenky

P.S.
I have almost all the parts for this type of motor (even got some 5.5V 1F super caps). Can't wait to start building. :)

captainpecan

Quote from: futuristic on February 02, 2010, 07:40:08 PM
Hi.

I see no way that battery would be shortened. I'll make tomorrow some sketchs of current flow in each part of waveform.

Have fun ;)
Frenky

P.S.
I have almost all the parts for this type of motor (even got some 5.5V 1F super caps). Can't wait to start building. :)

Yeah, I think I may have simply drawn my bridge backwards when I sketched it last week, lol... I see no short in this diagram either.  I'll give it a whirl.