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LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work

Started by Paul-R, March 03, 2010, 06:31:34 AM

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Butch LaFonte

Quote from: Butch LaFonte link=topic=8852.msg237742#msg237742 A=1271375784
The entire inter-ring acts as a slotted ring, but has no coging area.
See attached drawing and also new video being up loaded tonight of high voltage test results from slot free, cog free, stator.
Thanks,
Butch
Butch
Here the simulation with the inner ring of iron without silicon
And external circuits with silicon steel magnetic
tell me if you want to change settings
Bruno

LarryC

My unit uses a silicon steel laminated toroid and a EI transformer cut into an H shape, so eddy currents is considered negligible.

The first picture shows the new Neos 1" x 2" x 1/2". Had to keep a 3/8" gap between the Magnets and the toroid because of the high input load. Those results are shown in the spread sheet. All test were done at ~2950 Rpm by varying the input voltage. The waveform was much closer to the typical sine wave even without the Caps.

The input load was varying with the resistance which indicated to me some motor effect was occurring. So I tried the same test with the toroid removed, just the H cut transformer acting like a regular generator.  The results are in the second half of the spreadsheet. A 5/8" gap was used to get similar results. One noted difference was the 50 and 100 ohm resistors got much hotter faster.

The Output % - 20 input column is calculated by subtracting 20 from the input watts and dividing into the Output VA column. 20 watts is what it takes to run the rotor at ~2950 with no stator.


Regards, Larry

LarryC

@Butch,

I've noticed from the winding video, that you seem to be using high Ohm coils of an unknown value. Could you please post the ohm values.

I only bring this up because I did a lot of previous testing with Thane Heins's generator. Basically a high ohm coil which puts out high voltage low amperage power, would cause the rotor to accelerate. This is due to the parasitic capacitance of a high ohm coil, which changes the normal motor effect from a negative to a positive.  Whereas a low ohm coil which puts out low voltage high amperage power would cause the rotor to decelerate.

Thanks, Larry

mscoffman

Quote from: Butch LaFonte on April 15, 2010, 07:56:24 PM
The entire inter-ring acts as a slotted ring, but has no coging area.
See attached drawing and also new video being up loaded tonight of high voltage test results from slot free, cog free, stator.
Thanks,
Butch

@Butch;

In the following link there is an intesting way to build
a prime mover. If you combine it with the diagram
you show, there could be motor toroid coils at a
90 degree angle from the generator coils. Then
one could use one stack of magnets in the rotor
with two optical sensors to switch the drive coils
polarities. There has got to be some horsepower
in there somewhere. Just stand back when you
power it on. :o

Long Term detail reference link:
http://globalfreeenergy.info/2010/04/16/holy-grail-part-numbers/

Full spectrum reference link:
http://www.globalfreeenergy.info/

:S:MarkSCoffman

Butch LaFonte

Quote from: LarryC on April 16, 2010, 06:37:30 PM
My unit uses a silicon steel laminated toroid and a EI A cut into an H shape, so eddy currents is considered negligible.

The first picture shows the new Neos 1" x 2" x 1/2". Had to keep a 3/8" gap between the Magnets and the toroid because of the high input load. Those results are shown in the spread sheet. All test were done at ~2950 Rpm by varying the input voltage. The waveform was much closer to the typical sine wave even without the Caps.

The input load was varying with the resistance which indicated to me some motor effect was occurring. So I tried the same test with the toroid removed, just the H cut transformer acting like a regular generator.  The results are in the second half of the spreadsheet. A 5/8" gap was used to get similar results. One noted difference was the 50 and 100 ohm resistors got much hotter faster.

The Output % - 20 input column is calculated by subtracting 20 from the input watts and dividing into the Output VA column. 20 watts is what it takes to run the rotor at ~2950 with no stator.


Regards, Larry
Larry, Are you saying you got over 200% overunity at times or am I reading it wrong.
Butch