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Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!

Started by Bruce_TPU, March 21, 2010, 07:22:45 PM

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gravityblock

#25
March 26, 2010, 02:46:31 PM
Quote from: Airstriker on March 26, 2010, 06:54:29 AM
This is actually Tesla's patent but made in the other completelly wrong way.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/0406968.pdf
Tesla's patent ("Dynamo Electric Machine") describes an arrangement of two parallel discs with separate, parallel shafts, joined like pulleys by a metallic belt. Each disc had a field that was the opposite of the other, so that the flow of current was from the one shaft to the disc edge, across the belt to the other disc edge and to that shaft. This would have greatly reduced the frictional losses caused by sliding contacts by allowing both electrical pickups to interface with the shafts of the two disks rather than at the shaft and a high-speed rim.
In the setup of yours you just have a greater friction - not lower ;] Anyway, both have nothing to do with OU ;]

My designs eliminate having two separate shafts and a conductive belt joined like pulleys.  Both discs are on the same axle (How is this the same as Tesla's patent?).  Since both discs are rotating together on the same axle with opposite EMF, then the rims can be naturally connected in series and completely joined together without a conductive belt, allowing the current to flow between the discs.  In Tesla's patent, the conductive belt doesn't completely cover both discs.  This is not the wrong way, this is a better way.....but you must understand the concept and principals of this first. 

My designs extract the current from each end of the axis since this is where the greatest potential is in this setup.  I have much more efficient designs than this basic setup, based around the same principals.  I even have a design that is totally brush-less using multiple circular Halbach Arrarys (a halbach array can be made to have a uniform field) and are used in high performance brush-less motors you can buy today.

I said the design in the article was almost exactly like my designs.  You overlooked "almost" and didn't read my description in reply #14, and completely took what I said out of context again.  I don't know how you can say my designs have a greater friction.  It is the opposite, they have a lower friction.  My advanced brush-less designs have a near 0 friction.

This does have to do with OU.  Since the discs are connected in series, the power output is increased to the 4th power, while the input power only increases to the square thereof.  Doubling the radii of the disc and magnets will increase the power output to the 4th power, but the counter torque increases to the 4th power also.  This has already been experimentally verified and confirmed.  Connecting two discs of opposite EMF in series while rotating on the same axle would be equivalent to doubling the radii of the discs/magnets and equivalent to doubling the RPM.  This virtual doubling of the RPM overcomes most of the counter torque.  I guess my next post will have to be in explaining this virtual RPM.  Once you grasp this concept, then you will see the beauty of the system.  In Tesla's patent, since the conductive belt is only covering half of each disc, the system won't be utilized to it's fullest and you will be back to square one again.  My designs overcome this and exploit the HPG to it's fullest potential possible.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Bruce_TPU

#26
March 26, 2010, 10:09:14 PM
Hi GB,

I am looking forward to your description of "virtual rpm".  Thanks!

Good Evening ALL,

Tonight has been very fruitful.  I have shored up my build, changed my axle, to lessen the weight, and really found out that if I really wanted (I don't...LOL) I could build the entire unit out of 2 magnets a wire and some balsa wood.... (picture will explain)

I found out that from the magnets, I can run a piece of wire, quite a distance, to a "loop" of some sort, be it nail, bushing, etc,and still get spin.  Of course as long as it is connected electrically.  I needed to prove this to know that my BRUG device will rotate.

I am going with full magnetic levitation, slight friction on 1 point of contact.  Gravity is not a factor with this point of friction, so, a drop of oil and it should be not any issue at all.

I have ordered my magnets, last night, for my "Level 1" build.  As I learn from each build, and it works, I will get larger and larger.  Each size up is a cost factor.  So Level 1 is proof of concept, and learning curve.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

gravityblock

#27
March 27, 2010, 03:53:07 AM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on March 26, 2010, 10:09:14 PM
Hi GB,

I am looking forward to your description of "virtual rpm".  Thanks!

Cheers,

Bruce

Examples 1 - 4 below, shows the Relative motion or relative RPM between the disc and external circuit is proportional to the EMF.

Examples 5 & 6 below, shows the Virtual RPM is proportional to the net virtual relative motion between both discs and the external circuit while taking into consideration the direction of the EMF of each disc, since we're dealing with more than one disc.  The EMF is then proportional to the Virtual RPM, instead of the Relative RPM of just a single disc and external circuit.

In a normal setup, we have relative motion between the disc and external circuit.

1.)  Let's say the disc is rotating at 1000 RPM, and the external circuit is stationary.  The relative RPM between the disc and external circuit will be 1000 RPM in this case.  The EMF will be proportional to 1000 relative RPM.

2.)  Now, let's have the disc rotate at 1000 RPM and the external circuit will rotate in the same direction at 500 RPM.  The relative RPM between them is 500 RPM.  The EMF will be proportional to 500 relative RPM.

3.)  If they're both rotating in the same direction and both at 1000 RPM, the relative RPM is 0.  The EMF will be proportional to 0 relative RPM, which is a 0 EMF.

4.)  Now, let's have the disc rotate at 1000 RPM and the external circuit is rotating in the opposite direction (counter rotating) at 1000 RPM.  The relative RPM between them is now 2000 RPM.  The EMF will be proportional to 2000 relative RPM.

5.)  When you have 2 discs rotating together on the same axle at 1000 RPM with a stationary external circuit, and each disc has an EMF pointing in the same direction, then the relative RPM between the first disc and external circuit is 1000 RPM and between the second disc and external circuit is 1000 RPM, and since the EMF is in the same direction for each disc, then the net virtual relative motion between both discs and the external circuit is 0, which represents a virtual RPM of 0, and results in an EMF of 0, (this is equivalent to the #3 example above in regards to them rotating in the same direction and with the same RPM).

6)  When both discs rotate on the same axle at 1000 RPM with a stationary external circuit, and each disc has an EMF pointing in the opposite direction, then the relative RPM between the first disc and external circuit is 1000 RPM, and the relative motion between the second disc and external circuit is 1000 RPM........ and since each disc has an opposite EMF, then the net virtual relative motion between both discs and the external circuit is 2000 RPM, which is a virtual RPM of 2000 RPM (this is equivalent to the #4 example above in regards to them counter rotating)

To sum it up, the Virtual RPM represents the net virtual relative motion between both discs and the external circuit by taking the direction of the EMF of each disc into consideration since we're dealing with more than one disc.  If you can accept #1 - #4 above, then I don't see why #5 & #6 above can't be accepted either.

RPM's is not relevant in the HPG.  What is relevant, is the relative motion or relative RPM between the disc(s) and external circuit along with the direction of the EMF.

The effects of this Virtual RPM is similar to a force in the non-inertial reference frame and is a fictitious force in a stationary or inertial reference frame.  This analogy is similar (I must put this in bold, or somebody will take it out of context and twist my words) to the Centrifugal force, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force  I don't think this Virtual RPM is a reactive force, but I could be wrong.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_centrifugal_force  If it is a reactive force, then we won't have OU and the counter torque will increase in proportion to the Virtual RPM and the EMF.  If it isn't a reactive force, then we just may have OU, because the counter torque won't increase in proportion to the EMF.  We would in effect have an EMF that is proportional to twice the RPM of the axle, with a counter torque that is only proportional to the RPM of the axle (this is how the Virtual RPM could cancel most of the counter torque and how these designs based around this concept is relevant to OU).

It's also not much different than being able to simulate a virtual air gap in a ferromagnetic material, http://www.ele.utoronto.ca/~lehn/conference_papers/CP16.pdf

I hope I didn't confuse you too much.  You probably need to get inside of my head to understand it properly.  I'm sure that is a scary thought.  The concept is simple, if you can grasp it, lol.  I don't expect you or anyone else to understand this post.  If anyone does, then I'll be surprised.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Bruce_TPU

#28
March 27, 2010, 08:26:54 AM
Hi GB,

A very thought provoking post.  I guess my only issue, is that I do not see the magnetic fields rotating, at all, even though the magnets of course, are.  Now, the copper discs/coils rotate, and if the emf in copper disc one is spinning ccw at 1000 rpm and the second copper disc emf is spinning cw at 1000 rpm, I can see, that from the point of the observer riding the emf on any one of the copper discs the other emf would appear to be going the net sum of 2000 rpm.  I guess that I do not see how this helps us, since each emf is to their perspective copper disc.  Now, if one copper disc with an emf of ccw, were exactly ontop of another copper disc with an emf of cw than I could possible see a net gain. 

Anywho, just how I am picturing it right now, if that is even correct.  Have you built that description of yours and taken some measurements?  I would love to see some pictures or video if you have any, as well as a log of your measurements.  Thanks!

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Bruce_TPU

#29
March 27, 2010, 05:49:17 PM
Happy Saturday afternoon, everyone,

I have begun to build the pieces to my Level 1-BRUG, while I await parts and caps for the SSG3 and magnets for this project.  The pieces numbered below correspond to the numbers on the drawing, a couple of posts up.

I will continue to take some pictures as I make a little progress.

Back to the bench...

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.
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