GBluer(Slayer) Exiter

[Rfacts]

Kultus:
I'm usually at this public forum to see what I can learn while keeping to myself but I had to post that after objectively reviewing this situation I think your approach is smearing this community.  In a moment of truthfulness in your video rant you state that you don't know TeslaTronix from a bar of soap.  If you are a moral person who is supposedly claiming the moral high ground, why are you telling lies and jumping to conclusions about someone you admit you don't know?

Some of your video lies about TeslaTronix:
"He does not mention Slayer once in any of his videos."
[He does mention Slayer in some of his videos.]
"He probably most certainly does not know what he is doing with this stuff."
[He has designed primary and secondary coils and top loads to improve output performance of exciter circuits.]
"He is probably going to take your money and run."
[Unsubstantiated assumption, defamation of character.]
"He is claiming it is his research and it's most certainly not."
[He refers to Slayer exciter and has researched and designed primary and secondary coils and top loads.)

You state multiple times that TeslaTronix is just a fraud and he is just going to steal your money but you don't provide legal proof of the fraud you are referring to or how you know that he is just planning to steal money.

Some of your posted lies about TeslaTronix:
"So he is misleading his backers to thinking he has over unity".
[His video description states "I should also make note, in case it is not obvious, that these bulbs are not glowing as bright if they were actually plugged into a socket. There are no claims of "overunity" here."]
"19 volts @ 500 ma in .... and over 80 watts out .... no .. these bulbs are not fully lit ... there for he is not getting that kind of output ... LIAR!!!!"
[He only provides wattage rating of flourecent bulbs not the actual power output and states that he does have the means to take accurate measurements and is waiting on some equipment.  Also refer to his video description noted above.]

To make things worse, you aren't satisfied with telling the video lies on your own.  You're asking others to be your accomplice to help you spread them by posting your video rant on their YouTube channels so that you can get your lies out to more people.  If you had a sound argument you wouldn't be resorting to lies or exaggerations and if you were a moral person you would retract them, your actions will define you.

You, GBluer and others who are grasping for straws sometimes cite a health hazard double standard and spin it as if TeslaTronix is selling the Slayer exciter for $300 when it is clear that what is bringing a higher dollar value to the items he is selling are the coils, instructional videos and the kit concept he developed and not the exciter circuit.

You can't go after TeslaTronix in court because you don't have a case as has been well stated by MileHigh, SeaMonkey, Farmhand and allcanadian in their rational arguments.  You instead resort to emotional thus irrational rants.  It looks like GBluer has accepted that TeslaTronix beat him to the idea and effort required to sell kits and is going to do the same after seeing that there is a good market for them, over $25K thus far. 

Good luck to both of them and I hope you take a moment to reflect on how you are going about this and what is best for this community.

[ramset]

YEESH
Did somebody say the "C" word?
Nobody likes that !!


Most entities will go way out of their way to avoid the cost or even remote chance  of a "Court event".


Every body knows that??
thx
Chet
PS
RF ,please don't presume to understand "Slayer's" position here, when you get the wind knocked out of you by a sucker punch it takes a little time for the mind to clear.


the far reaching consequences to the open source community are becoming quite clear.

[SeaMonkey]

RF ,please don't presume to understand "Slayer's" position here, when you get the wind knocked out of you by a sucker punch it takes a little time for the mind to clear.


the far reaching consequences to the open source community are becoming quite clear.

What is it that you are not able to comprehend
regarding Open Source?

You wish to alter the terms and conditions of
Open Source?

Are you presuming it to be something it was never
intended to be?

Alternatives to Open Source are:

Creation for its own sake.

Voluntary after-the-fact donations.

Freemium.

Charge for support.

Give away for promotion.


The true Open Source Community gives freely
and expects nothing in return.  Nothing.
It is hoped that whatever is given proves to be
of some value to all users and that possible
improvements will be publicized along with
any correction of errors.

Any who would impose "conditions" or expect
"returns" cannot claim to be of the Open Source
Community.

[NickZ]

  I agree with the above statements.   
  Can't we just get back to replications, as such as was the idea, previously.
  Those of a different view point, maybe you are looking at this in the wrong way.
As these forum are not about making money, but about giving free open source information for those that would like to replicate and improve this technology. 
As most of us know where and how the original devices came to be in the first place.
  For those out to make a buck, the opportunity still exist, on E-bay and elsewhere.
No one is going to stop that, especially not by just saying so.
Competition for a better product has always been the American way.
But, cooperation,  is better yet.

[ramset]

Community?


Sir
I propose you are not an active part of the "contribution" end of the open source community.
It would seem with your mind set you are a very willing "taker" of open source .


When you get some mileage in the giving part,perhaps your perspective will change on the taking
part.
And Maybe even something as Basic as Right and wrong will be within your grasp!


Thx
Chet