Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

[mscoffman]

Technically you don't need any/much fuel if you consider the fact that you get water from the exhaust.

The exhaust water would be somewhat depleted in deuterium
you'd probably want to exhaust it eventually so that it could
re-equalize with water in the environment. It does this
automatically through water ion interchange. It turns out
that the deuterium ratio of water on Mars is somewhat more
concentrated than Earth because Mars differentially lost
most of it's light hydrogen through atmospheric migration.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[mscoffman]

I'd have waited with a comment like that because you have no indication that is does self run. The energy contained in the system is more than enough to act as a buffer in the short 40 seconds to run electrolysis and the motor.

But the comment from the person on you-tube gives no
hope outside of ZPE that the unit self-runs. I wanted to say;

A) this is a different process than free energy magnetic motors.
which almost certainly must be ZPE. So is not dependent on that.

B) if it self-runs for any amount of time almost certainly there is
no experimentally questionable amount of gain. The gain has
got to be large enough to run the ineffcient ICE motor.

The person does have to show long term self-running, but he
should also have some hope of achieving it.

:MarkSCoffman

[haithar]

But the comment from the person on you-tube gives no
hope outside of ZPE that the unit self-runs. I wanted to say;

Well what he said is true, isn't it?

B) if it self-runs for any amount of time almost certainly there is
no experimentally questionable amount of gain. The gain has
got to be large enough to run the ineffcient ICE motor.

The person does have to show long term self-running, but he
should also have some hope of achieving it.

:MarkSCoffman

I agree with that. But we don't know if the motor would run for any amount of time, it possibly won't.

[hartiberlin]

Oliver confirmed now over here:

http://www.overunity.de/index.php?topic=528.msg8601#msg8601

that they only had the car ignition coil running on an external small AC/DC adapter,
which could be easily also adapted to the output,
but all the HHO gas the 3 Anton cells produced were enough to run the whole
system in a selfrunning mode.

But due to the poor regulations  Valentin  had to watch and readjust the airmix
and as the motor speeded up and got too fast, they did need to shut it down after
40 seconds, cause the main power supply for the 3 Antons can not tolerate
over-voltages and they feared to break this power supply.

I will try to reach Oliver via phone and will ask more.

Regards, Stefan.

[hartiberlin]

I just spoke with Oliver on the phone and
he confirmed again, that the produced electrical power was enough
to run the AC/DC power supply for the 3 Anton cells.

But all needs very much readjusting, cause they only have a very
cheap Chinese Motor/Generator and the external air input also
needs to be readjusted with RPM etc, so it needed 2 people to operate it all
and held the RPM steady and when the RPM went too fast, they shut this
system down after 40 seconds...

They did the test mainly to study how much mechanical and electrical power
can be produced and they were themself really astound, that they got it to selfrun...

They want to research it much further and were disappointed, that guys
like Woodpecker and others, who were almost there 1 year ago, never came
forward with new tests.

To me this proves, that during the combustion from HHO there is still going on
more things then we are used to know.
The high speed detonation of HHO, which they use in their optimized modified sparkplug
and phade angle timing of the sparking to motor rotor TDC position,
makes it possible to deliver the full stroke mechanical power to the motor and
thus keep up a high RPM.

Maybe when the HHO gas explodes, it draws in some energy from the zero point field
or something like this or there is really deuterium involved... who know,
but this have to be researched from the universities !


Regards, Stefan.