Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

[vrand]

See, we already know how much videos are worth when such claims are to be sustained. How much would it take to get a Brown gas generator and try this darn thing? 60Co is easy to find, these are the calibration tablets for the NaI and Ge detectors. One can use even a Geiger counter for this purpose.

Yeah, there are several sellers of Browns Gas/HHO units.  When Yull Brown did his radiation remediation experiments back in 1980's he used his big 15-20 LPM machine.

Eagle Research makes a 1200 LPH, 20 LPM unit, at 3 Wh/L, for $3500 FOB.  Accessories (bubbler, hoses, torch tips, etc) available separately.
http://www.blazingwater.com/

See the Presentation for the specs and costs:
http://www.waterwelder.com/ppt/er1200/index.htm

3 Wh/L is good. It would be great to compare the Wh/L and the gas output between the Anton unit and the Eagle Research unit to see who has the better Wh/L efficiency and orthohydrogen gas output. 

The Anton unit is exciting as it is the first HHO unit to run an engine that is also powering the cell!  There is something special happening with that cell. Maybe its producing 100% orthohydrogen? If so, then getting several of them in series/parallel to output 20 LPM might be the way to go. 

There were claims back in the '70's down in Australia/New Zealand that Yull converted a car to run on his gas. Nothing came out of that though.

Unknown the efficiencies of the Korea or China brand units. Their prices are around $3-5k.

[vrand]

Yeah, there are several sellers of Browns Gas/HHO units.  When Yull Brown did his radiation remediation experiments back in 1980's he used his big 15-20 LPM machine.

Eagle Research makes a 1200 LPH, 20 LPM unit, at 3 Wh/L, for $3500 FOB.  Accessories (bubbler, hoses, torch tips, etc) available separately.
http://www.blazingwater.com/

See the Presentation for the specs and costs:
http://www.waterwelder.com/ppt/er1200/index.htm

3 Wh/L is good. It would be great to compare the Wh/L and the gas output between the Anton unit and the Eagle Research unit to see who has the better Wh/L efficiency and orthohydrogen gas output. 

The Anton unit is exciting as it is the first HHO unit to run an engine that is also powering the cell!  There is something special happening with that cell. Maybe its producing 100% orthohydrogen? If so, then getting several of them in series/parallel to output 20 LPM might be the way to go. 

There were claims back in the '70's down in Australia/New Zealand that Yull converted a car to run on his gas. Nothing came out of that though.

Unknown the efficiencies of the Korea or China brand units. Their prices are around $3-5k.

Bob Boyce designed a HHO 101 plate unit that got down to under 1 Wh/L but it is not in production, and you have to build it yourself. See the D9 PDF doc for the spec's.
http://waterpoweredcar.com/pdf.files/D9.pdf

This whole HHO field has been going on since the '60's with Dr. Rhodes, the original inventor, that sold units to jewelers.  It never took off commercially as the markets were wide spread and already well established. 

[vrand]

This is what Gene Mallove believed in and he took me once, some 20 years ago, to a relative of his, a lawyer, to help us set up a company together. I refused because utilitarianism comes after establishing the scientific fact. Life is cruel. Science even more. If you don't have money to do the research properly too bad. No mercy. No way around it through making it appear the dream, the promise will somehow turn into a cash cow. We have a lot of examples of that, going nowhere. Even in the mainstream science.

“On the planet Earth, if you jump up, you will come down is a universal experience. Knowledge about the law of gravity is not. One does not have to understand the law of gravity in order to come down after jumping up."

"The builder of a chair does not have to understand the law of gravity in order to make a chair." 

"Build it and they will come." 

Most consumers have no idea how to build a car or TV or computer, but they use and buy them every day.

The "Free Energy & Over Unity" field is littered with failed experiments that did not work and $$ spent.  It is a rarity to read about a successful experiment that demonstrate an engineered end product that can be purchased by the consumer. 

This Anton genset experiment is one of those rarities 

Regards, Mike R.

[haithar]

Bob Boyce designed a HHO 101 plate unit that got down to under 1 Wh/L but it is not in production, and you have to build it yourself. See the D9 PDF doc for the spec's.
http://waterpoweredcar.com/pdf.files/D9.pdf

you forgot to add 'which does not work'. there's a video on YouTube where two builders have replicated it exactly, they show the correct waveforms, a large 101-plated cell and so on. But it does not work or at least no overunity.

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“On the planet Earth, if you jump up, you will come down is a universal experience. Knowledge about the law of gravity is not. One does not have to understand the law of gravity in order to come down after jumping up."

"The builder of a chair does not have to understand the law of gravity in order to make a chair." 

"Build it and they will come." 

Most consumers have no idea how to build a car or TV or computer, but they use and buy them every day.

The "Free Energy & Over Unity" field is littered with failed experiments that did not work and $$ spent.  It is a rarity to read about a successful experiment that demonstrate an engineered end product that can be purchased by the consumer. 

This Anton genset experiment is one of those rarities 

Regards, Mike R.

See, the sitting on the chair and seeing the car move are the conclusive experiment in your example. On the contrary, in our case here we're not sure if we're dealing with a real phenomenon at all. So, it's not about understanding how it works but whether or not it's just a trivial mistake due to errors in measurement. That's the problem. Proving that it's a real phenomenon in this case isn't as easy as sitting in a chair or turning the ignition key. It doesn't consist in just building those machines. To prove OU or radiation elimination is more involved and that cannot be accomplished by first manufacturing devices and selling them to customers, as in the case of making chairs. The powers that be will immediately use the disgruntled customers to shoot down the research (cf. Perendev). These powers aren't shooting down failed-to-deliver Tokamak or the failed-to-deliver five billion dollar laser fusion project but they will certainly shoot down promptly any OU project at the tiniest opportunity. Therefore there must be iron clad proof that the claimed OU machine is real before setting up a company to sell it to customers the way you have to have a car that moves when driven in order to offer it on the market. Like I said, that isn't easy and hasn't been done yet to satisfy the rigorous criteria of science. Most of what we're seeing are attempts in trying to woo investors with elaborate games based on questionable presentations. Genuine efforts to show quality research openly and competently are a rarity and have not amounted to much so far in convincing those in the know of the validity of the claims.