Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

[the badger]

These gentlemen don't have to prove anything to anyone. They don't owe us a thing. It is nice of them to share what they are doing and keeping us informed. If they get it self running so that it stays running and it gives more, then it is OU. That's all the proof anyone should need. Anything else is a waste of time that can be left to the science community.

[Omnibus]

The great discoveries in science were either made by people who were independently wealthy or were talents plucked out from the crowd and supported by the powers that be when what they were doing was in the interest of the military or the overall standing of the nation. OU isn't that kind of a thing and official support cannot be expected but an independently wealthy cannot be prevented (up to a point) from exploring it.

[Omnibus]

These gentlemen don't have to prove anything to anyone. They don't owe us a thing. It is nice of them to share what they are doing and keeping us informed. If they get it self running so that it stays running and it gives more, then it is OU. That's all the proof anyone should need. Anything else is a waste of time that can be left to the science community.

If we agree to that we would agree to condone just anything perpetrated over the internet. People have responsibilities, though. Even the anonymous users of the internet do. That's the elementary human ethics of a civilized society. So, yes they owe us an explanation once they have placed it to be observed and discussed publicly. Otherwise the society will turn into a jungle.

Further, if their effort to build a self-sustaining device turns out to be unsuccessful (hope that won't turn out be the case) that will not be the end of the research in this area. The end of the research in this area can only be brought about by careful in-depth scientific exploration of the purported phenomenon. And, in the case of current self-running trial turning unsuccessful but the scientific research reveling it's a real phenomenon then further, more sophisticated efforts will inevitably bring about a self-sustaining technology. Rigorous scientific research is inevitable in these matters and trying to find a shortcut doesn't work overwhelmingly, history tells us.

[vrand]

These gentlemen don't have to prove anything to anyone. They don't owe us a thing. It is nice of them to share what they are doing and keeping us informed. If they get it self running so that it stays running and it gives more, then it is OU. That's all the proof anyone should need. Anything else is a waste of time that can be left to the science community.

I agree.  "build it and they will come" is my motto 

Now if they can make it work stable, get a gas regulator on the input, I would like to buy a unit from them, or if it is too expensive (euro is expensive) then make my own unit if possible.

Not everyone will buy the newest invention. Some will wait for more scientific proof. Some will wait years before buying anything that does not have a long history or "track record" of sucess and have years of warranties guarantees.

Not me, I want to get "off the electric grid" and make my own electricity, as the rates are rising every year!

Oliver & Valentin, just make it work with what you have, show a video, document your existing setup so other researchers can replicate and verify that it works.

The Anton cell is not cheap so not many researchers will be able to afford to build a unit right now.  But some will have the funds to try to replicate 

Regards, Mike R.

[briansahern]

One cannot pull off the Yul Brown tricks with other fuels, because they produce a non-condensable gas (CO2). This will not condense into a liquid like the hydrogen gas does under properly controlled conditions.

People are generally unfamiliar with combustion with stoichiometric mixtures of H2 and O2 and for good reasons. They would generally  take themselves out of Darwinian selection when a large volume of the gas was inadvertently collected.